[Vision2020] And you all say that we have a political agenda?!

Art Deco deco at moscow.com
Fri Mar 16 07:25:05 PDT 2007 

Replaying:

This kind of right wing/religious bullshit is what happens when misguided, 
stupid, and/or tyrannical people depend on superstition for their moral 
beliefs rather than observation and reasoning.

W.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sue Hovey" <suehovey at moscow.com>
To: "Saundra Lund" <sslund at roadrunner.com>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] And you all say that we have a political agenda?!


> Note Waltz's final comment, "All our kids are great kids, whether they are
> gay or straight," is, I believe, the point of these classes.  Too bad she
> doesn't get it.
>
> Strange the Trib article doesn't even mention the nondisclosure contract
> bit, which, if true, would be a significant issue for the press.  I
> seriously doubt there is anything to the claim students have to sign a
> contract promising "not to tell their parents."  Public school folks who
> work with teenagers know they tell everything--to everyone, except maybe
> their parents, until they turn 40 and around the dinner table tell us all
> that stuff we really don't want to know now.
>
> Mrs. Walz's  daughter was hurt when her beliefs were challenged. But 
> that's
> how kids grow, and adults, too.  To be called on to examine ones beliefs 
> is
> not to say they are necessarily wrong; but as one who grew up believing
> pretty much what Mrs Walz would have her daughter believe, I wish someone
> had challenged my attitudes when I was 17 or so.
>
> Thanks for the link.
>
> Sue Hovey
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Saundra Lund" <sslund at roadrunner.com>
> To: "'Sue Hovey'" <suehovey at moscow.com>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 11:01 AM
> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] And you all say that we have a political 
> agenda?!
>
>
>> Hi Sue,
>>
>> You might want to check out this link to a story that was in the Chicago
>> Trib:
>> http://tinyurl.com/2arte6
>>
>> Not surprisingly, the story is actually quite a bit different than the
>> drivel Doug Farris wants us to believe.  Seems to me the religious
>> reactionaries need to get their stories straight -- it's hard to make the
>> argument about the whole nonsense of some confidentiality contract when
>> everyone knows about the event in advance and parents can opt to not have
>> their children participate.  Notice, too, the names & how Ellen Waltz,
>> whose name appears in the Trib, seems to be changing her story  :-P
>>
>>
>> Saundra Lund
>> Moscow, ID
>>
>> The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do
>> nothing.
>> - Edmund Burke
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>> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com 
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>> On Behalf Of Sue Hovey
>> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 12:48 PM
>> To: vision2020 at moscow.com; heirdoug at netscape.net
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] And you all say that we have a political
>> agenda?!
>>
>> Seems suspicious to me.  I think I'll consider this release suspect until
>> I see some response from the school personnel.  Does anyone have that?
>>
>> Sue
>>
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>> From: heirdoug at netscape.net
>> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 4:25 AM
>> Subject: [Vision2020] And you all say that we have a political agenda?!
>>
>> District gags 14-year-olds after 'gay' indoctrination: 'Confidentiality'
>> promise requires students 'not to tell their parents'
>>
>> It is important to understand the distinction between endorsed speech in
>> schools and allowed speech in schools. When something is mandatory and 
>> the
>> kids must attend, then it is endorsed speech. This is not a matter of
>> freedom of speech; rather, it is pushing an agenda. As I’ve said before,
>> homosexuals have made the public schools their recruiting grounds for
>> years.
>> Citizen Link broke this.
>> Parents of freshmen at Chicago's Deerfield High School say students are
>> required to attend lectures on gay sexuality, and then sign a contract
>> forbidding them to talk about it afterward.
>> Ellen Waltz's son and his friends told her about the lectures --  
>> delivered
>> by other students -- and the contract.
>> "[They said,] 'We had to sit there and listen to them tell us about their
>> feelings and what it's like to be gay,' " Waltz said. "They make them 
>> sign
>> a contract stating that they won't say anything that's in the room."
>> Lora Sue Hauser, a school-issues adviser for North Shore Student 
>> Advocacy,
>> said a group of boys told her school officials threatened those who were
>> reluctant to sign the contract.
>> "[They were told] 'You will sign this or you will go to the dean,' "
>> Hauser said.
>>
>> More details from World Net Daily:
>>
>> Officials at Deerfield High School in Deerfield, Ill., have ordered their
>> 14-year-old freshman class into a "gay" indoctrination seminar, after
>> having them sign a confidentiality agreement promising not to tell their
>> parents.
>> "This is unbelievable," said Matt Barber, policy director for cultural
>> issues for Concerned Women for America. "It's not enough that students at
>> Deerfield High are being exposed to improper and offensive material
>> relative to unhealthy and high-risk homosexual behavior, but they've
>> essentially been told by teachers to lie to their parents about it."
>> In what CWA called a "shocking and brazen act of government abuse of
>> parental rights," the school's officials required the 14-year-olds to
>> attend a "Gay Straight Alliance Network" panel discussion led by "gay" 
>> and
>> "lesbian" upperclassmen during a "freshman advisory" class which
>> "secretively featured inappropriate discussions of a sexual nature in
>> promotion of high-risk homosexual behaviors."
>> "This goes to the heart of the homosexual agenda," Barber said. "The
>> professional propagandists in the 'gay-rights' lobby know the method all
>> too well. If you can maintain control of undeveloped and impressionable
>> youth and spoon-feed them misinformation, lies and half-truths about
>> dangerous, disordered and extremely risky behaviors, then you can control
>> the future and ensure that those behaviors are not only fully accepted,
>> but celebrated."
>> He said not only is forcing students to be exposed to the pro-homosexual
>> propaganda bad enough, but then school officials further required that
>> students sign the "confidentiality agreement" through which they promised
>> not to tell anyone - including their own parents - about the seminar.
>> Barber said that also aligns with the goals of the disinformation 
>> campaign
>> being run by those in the pro-homosexual camp. "That's what homosexual
>> activists from GSA are attempting to do, and that's what DHS is clearly 
>> up
>> to as well."
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