[Vision2020] Fantasy vs. Reality Fourth Installment

Sat Mar 10 13:11:48 PST 2007

Keely,

You still refuse to answer the question that I posed to you:

"Did you happen to see the word "choice" in my post?"

lemeno, Doug!

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Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fantasy vs. Reality Fourth Installment

My eyes are plenty open, Doug. I can't imagine seeing you more clearly 
than I do now. I'm not sure why you continue, but virtually everything 
you've ever written makes the view terribly unappealing. 

keely 

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Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 14:31:53 -0500 

Keely, 

Did you happen to see the word "choice" in my post? I guess that you 
missed it. Also the qualifier of my argument was "those who oppose the 
Living God". You seem to have Jackie's selective reading disorder. 

You really have to open your eyes. 

Doug! 

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This appears to be a not-so-subtle slam against childless couples, and 
that's exactly what the writer intended. It's another example of not 
only sheer idiocy, but the kind of juvenile, mocking, belligerent and 
hateful crap that he's known for. It's disgusting, and the object of 
his sneering, who is my friend, doesn't deserve this. 

But what do you, besides pray for a man who has mastered nothing that 
matters and has missed out on the one thing that does. In the Bible, a 
man who has a lot of children is described as having a full quiver. And 
Doug's quiver is full. It's his heart that's empty and his mind that's 
sterile and fruitless. 

keely 

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Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 13:34:43 -0500 

Tom-Tom, 

It was good of you to repost Pastor Wilson's Blog 
http://www.tomandrodna.com/Stuff/Prayer_of_Imprecation_MaBlog_112406.pdf 

I am sure that this will allow others to read it as well. The part that 
I respect the most out of the prayer is the part where it states "... 
may his name and his line come to nothing." I take this to mean that 
those who oppose the Living God will not have male children to carry on 
the family name. And that this alleged choice of theirs is in reality a 
judgement of God. I guess one can leave all of their inheritance to the 
family pet! 

lemeno, Doug! 

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Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Fantasy vs. Reality Fourth Installment 

Bill - 

Do you mean the time that Keely and Doug Wilson discussed imprecatory 
prayer 
on KRFP, where Wilson suggests that his brand of imprecatory prayer is 
meant 
to: 

" . . . bring them shame of face where they might seek Your name." 

And - 

" . . . to transform our enemies into our friends." 

http://www.tomandrodna.com/Stuff/Imprecatory_Prayer_071106.mp3 

Or does Doug Wilson favor a more violent type of imprecatory prayer as 
mentioned by "News of Christ Cult" and reflected in Doug Wilson's 
MaBlog: 

"Let their children be orphaned, cut off without a father. Let their 
wives 
be widows, and we pray that their children would be desolate, having to 
beg 
their bread in empty places. 

http://www.tomandrodna.com/Stuff/Prayer_of_Imprecation_MaBlog_112406.pdf 

Does Doug Wilson believe in the constructive, show-them-the-light type 
of 
imprecatory prayer or the more violent imprecatory prayer? Or does it 
depend upon to whom he is addressing? 

Tom Hansen 
Moscow, Idaho 

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Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fantasy vs. Reality Fourth Installment 

Keely, of course, says it all better than I.... 
however, I do have one comment on this issue of imprecatory prayer. 
When Keely was debating Doug Wilson recently on KRFP, I called and 
asked 
specifically about Doug's use of imprecatory prayer. He denied that he 
ever 
prayed that people would suffer, as Job had suffered. 
His denial is very different from the more recent statements on his 
website 
quoted here earlier.... 
I wonder which time he was telling the truth...BL 
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