[Vision2020] Fantasy vs. Reality Fourth Installment

Sat Mar 10 11:40:36 PST 2007

You know every time I think you can not possibly sink to a new level of 
stupid, you prove me wrong big time!

A male child, as you so chavenistically put it, is not the only one that can 
carry a family name on.  There are plenty of examples of women in Bibilical 
history as well as modern times that have done so and with style, grace, 
pride and honor.  You, on the other hand, are an embarassment to your family 
and I would not hesitate to point out they have told you so on many 
occasions.

Again, you post about what DOUG W says is the truth without bothering to 
back it up with a complete posting of what God says or means.  Taking things 
out of context or misinterrpreting is a CC habit learned by the masses at 
the knee of a "master", that being Doug Wilson.  Someone said the other day 
"Did Doug ever have a legitimate job - ever?"  And my only reply was "Yeah, 
he served in the Navy for a short time until his discharge.  Since then, 
no."  If he hasn't been attending college (on the GI Bill, I might add) he's 
been stealing the leadership of a church HE did not start but has corrupted 
and done so with pronouncements such as what you quote here.

We are told that the fruit of the person is what we should be watching and 
taking as a sign of a person's worth.  Doug's continued condemnation and 
perversion of God's Truth is a prime example of the type of rotten fruit we 
are to avoid.  Seems you can't do that for whatever reason, Doug F.

To paraphrase "I pity the fool that follows an even bigger fool."  Of course 
the question begs to be asked - which is actually the bigger fool?  The 
leader of the CC or the follower of that leader?

J  :]

>From: heirdoug at netscape.net
>To: thansen at moscow.com, london at moscow.com, vision2020 at moscow.com,        
>deco at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fantasy vs. Reality Fourth Installment
>Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 13:34:43 -0500
>
>Tom-Tom,
>
>It was good of you to repost Pastor Wilson's Blog
>http://www.tomandrodna.com/Stuff/Prayer_of_Imprecation_MaBlog_112406.pdf
>I am sure that this will allow others to read it as well. The part that
>I respect the most out of the prayer is the part where it states "...
>may his name and his line come to nothing." I take this to mean that
>those who oppose the Living God will not have male children to carry on
>the family name. And that this alleged choice of theirs is in reality a
>judgement of God. I guess one can leave all of their inheritance to the
>family pet!
>
>lemeno, Doug!
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: thansen at moscow.com
>To: london at moscow.com; kjajmix1 at msn.com; heirdoug at netscape.net;
>sunilramalingam at hotmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
>Sent: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 5:19 PM
>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Fantasy vs. Reality Fourth Installment
>
>Bill -
>
>Do you mean the time that Keely and Doug Wilson discussed imprecatory
>prayer
>on KRFP, where Wilson suggests that his brand of imprecatory prayer is
>meant
>to:
>
>" . . . bring them shame of face where they might seek Your name."
>
>And -
>
>" . . . to transform our enemies into our friends."
>
>http://www.tomandrodna.com/Stuff/Imprecatory_Prayer_071106.mp3
>
>Or does Doug Wilson favor a more violent type of imprecatory prayer as
>mentioned by "News of Christ Cult" and reflected in Doug Wilson's
>MaBlog:
>
>"Let their children be orphaned, cut off without a father. Let their
>wives
>be widows, and we pray that their children would be desolate, having to
>beg
>their bread in empty places.
>
>http://www.tomandrodna.com/Stuff/Prayer_of_Imprecation_MaBlog_112406.pdf
>
>Does Doug Wilson believe in the constructive, show-them-the-light type
>of
>imprecatory prayer or the more violent imprecatory prayer? Or does it
>depend upon to whom he is addressing?
>
>Tom Hansen
>Moscow, Idaho
>
>
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>
>"When people sin, everybody has to pay."
>
>- Douglas Wilson of Wilson, Inc. (dba Christ Church) (June 7, 2002)
>
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>
>-----Original Message-----
>  From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
>[mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
>On Behalf Of Bill London
>Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 3:52 PM
>To: keely emerinemix; heirdoug at netscape.net;
>sunilramalingam at hotmail.com;
>vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fantasy vs. Reality Fourth Installment
>
>Keely, of course, says it all better than I....
>however, I do have one comment on this issue of imprecatory prayer.
>When Keely was debating Doug Wilson recently on KRFP, I called and asked
>specifically about Doug's use of imprecatory prayer. He denied that he
>ever
>prayed that people would suffer, as Job had suffered.
>His denial is very different from the more recent statements on his
>website
>quoted here earlier....
>I wonder which time he was telling the truth...BL
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