[Vision2020] [Bulk] Re: Fantasy vs. Reality Fourth Installment

[Nicholas Gier]

Thanks, Paul, for reminding us that heirdoug is so blind that he cannot
see the chilling parallels between Wilsonian Christianity (which is not
mainline evangelical) and radical Islam.  See my essay by that title at
www.class.uidaho.edu/ngier/parallels.htm.  For 15 reasons why Wilson is
not a good evangelical, see www.class.uidaho.edu/ngier/evang.htm.

Nick Gier

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>
Date: Thursday, March 8, 2007 6:45 pm
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [Bulk] Re: Fantasy vs. Reality Fourth Installment
To: vision2020 at moscow.com

> heirdoug at netscape.net wrote:
> 
> >Imprecatory Prayer: The Intercessor’s Elephant Gun
> >By Doug Giles
> >  
> >
> 
> Don't know if this is you or not, but thought I'd answer anyway...
> 
> >One: Back President Bush and his aggressive armed attitude against 
> >terrorists and terror supporting nations. 
> >  
> >
> 
> Can't do that.  If he was trying to use the power of the law to 
> track 
> these guys down instead of trying to clean up a mess in Iraq that 
> had 
> little to do with 9/11, maybe I'd go for it.  If I thought it was 
> an 
> honest mistake and we weren't torturing suspects without trials and 
> using "extraordinary rendition", maybe I could get behind him to do 
> what 
> we can to clean up our mess.  I can back this man on Afghanistan, 
> as 
> long as he's not doing things unilaterally, but not Iraq.  Just 
> remember 
> that it could be argued that we are a "terror supporting" nation.  
> We 
> sold arms to Iran.  Our CIA trained Bin Laden.  Who knows how many 
> other 
> dirty secrets we have hidden somewhere?
> 
> >Two: Push for cinching our borders tighter than a fat guy's belt 
> after 
> >an ‘All-You-Can-Eat’ beef rib blow out at Tony Roma’s.
> >  
> >
> 
> I'm afraid I can't do this one, either.  Our polyglot of cultures 
> and 
> attitudes and beliefs is our crowning strength, not a weakness.  
> Sure, 
> tighten security to help stop further terror attacks (while 
> respecting 
> people's rights in the process), but don't turn us insular.  The 
> world 
> is an interconnected global system.  we turn our backs on it at our 
> own 
> risk.
> 
> >Three: Aggressively support the rooting out of the multitudinous 
> >terrorist cells that are concocting their villainous crap in our 
> very 
> >own cul de sacs.
> >  
> >
> 
> I can get behind this one.  We already have systems in place to 
> handle 
> this.  No new scary rights-removing laws needed.  Let the system work.
> 
> >Four: Make it ridiculously impossible for a pro-radical Islamic 
> >professor to pee in one of our university’s bathrooms, much less 
> teach 
> >in one of our classrooms. 
> >  
> >
> 
> Freedom of religion.  If you can't live with it, get the fuck out.  
> If 
> said professor commits a crime, throw him or her in prison.  
> Otherwise 
> ignore their religion.  Is there some kind of a flood of radical 
> Islamic 
> professors applying for teaching jobs I haven't heard about?
> 
> >Five: As people of faith, dust off and use what’s afforded to the 
> >believer within the Old and New Testaments, namely the imprecatory 
> >prayers.
> >  
> >
> 
> Can't do this one, either.  For one, I'm not Christian.  For 
> another, I 
> believe that if you have a beef with someone, you should tell them 
> to 
> their face, not try to implore some possibly-real (probably-
> imaginary) 
> phantom to do your dirty work for you.
> 
> Since I haven't seen anything on the news about radical Muslims, 
> local 
> philosophy professors, or "intoleristas" being inexplicably burned 
> to a 
> crisp by bolts of lightning, I'm assuming your God is thinking 
> along the 
> same lines I am.
> 
> Paul
> 
> P.S.  Isn't it frightening how many similarities there are between 
> radical fundamentalists of Islam and Christianity?  If love and 
> kindness 
> won't work for us, then what was Jesus blathering on about?
> 
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