[Vision2020] love for police

[Sue Hovey]

When Nancy Chaney and Linda Pall voted against the police request for 
unionization, it seemed a violation of what I thought they stood for.  For 
me, it was one of those telling acts which clearly define who they are. I 
would probably not vote for either of them again.

Roger, I think your memory of the events is correct. (Your other posting) 
That's the way I remember it, too.

As a member of the IEA (teachers' union) I worked with those who chose not 
to join, and even though I often respected them as teachers, I resented 
their being freeloaders while the rest of us paid their way.  And more than 
once non-members got into trouble and only then came asking for membership 
forms.  Legally we had to let them join and then defend them. We also had to 
defend non-members if their grievance fell within the guidelines of the 
negotiated grievance procedure.  I think a couple of court decisions have 
adjusted that mandate somewhat to protect the union financially.

Sue H.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "lfalen" <lfalen at turbonet.com>
To: "Tom Ivie" <the_ivies3 at yahoo.com>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] love for police


> My view is that anyone should be able to join what ever group the want, 
> union or otherwise. No one should be forced to join a union as a condition 
> of employment. If individual members of the police force wanted to join a 
> union they should have been able to. Those that do not want to should not 
> be t required to do so.
>
> Roger
> -----Original message-----
> From: Tom Ivie the_ivies3 at yahoo.com
> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 14:56:06 -0700
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: [Vision2020] love for police
>
>> I like the way everyone professes their gratitude to the police now but 
>> not when the police wanted to do something "radical" like unionizing. It 
>> amazes me to hear some of the same people say that they love the police 
>> when they or groups they associate with actively worked to squash the 
>> Police Union.
>>          To my knowledge, the police don’t usually ask for a lot.  I 
>> never hear them complain. Yet, the one time they speak up about something 
>> they do want, we shut them down. Maybe the issues they wanted a union for 
>> have been resolved, I don’t know.
>>
>>  It just strikes a nerve with me to hear “we love them so much” out of 
>> one side of the mouth and “no union for you” out of the other side.  They 
>> give and we take?  Why can’t they give and we give back to them.  Is the 
>> love for the police and hate (by some) for their unionization a mutually 
>> exclusive bipartition dichotomy or a logical fallacy?  Discussion?
>>
>>
>> Tom & Liz Ivie
>>
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