[Vision2020] Sitler wore a Kirk-orangejumpsuit:Mr.Schwallerdidnot appear

[J Ford]

To set the record straight, I did not, NOT, "out" SD Gray...his wife did.  I 
made what I thought was a valid complaint and comment withOUT names -  on 
purpose.  The people in that neighborhood also feel he let them down.

But if it makes you all feel better to beat up on me on this one point - go 
for it.  I still have a right to believe that he should have taken his job a 
little more seriously - that of protecting the public from creeps like 
Sitler - and he should have made it known at LEAST to the day care that 
Sitler was there.

Again, it was NOT me that put Gray's name out there - it was his wife.

I have the HIGHEST regard for the MPD - the Sheriff's department has been 
lacking in quality for years and people know it.  (Anyone wonder what 
happened to Jennifer McFarland?  Now THERE was a good deputy.)  And NO I am 
not saying Gray is not a good SD...I'm just saying his abilities need to be 
better evaluated.  Period.

J  :]





>From: Joe Campbell <joekc at adelphia.net>
>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sitler wore a 
>Kirk-orangejumpsuit:Mr.Schwallerdidnot appear
>Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 8:52:30 -0700
>
>I agree with your comments about the inappropriate and wrongful attack on 
>Sgt. Grey and like you I'm grateful for the courage and support that he and 
>others have given to the community.
>
>I want to make a brief response to this comment: "I agree that some 
>people's obsession with Sitler's whereabouts certainly seems to have less 
>to do with broad-based community concerns and more to do with how to 
>embarrass a church for the shortcomings they perceive in its pastor."
>
>All of this may well be true but I’m a little uneasy about the comment 
>following Crabtree’s irresponsible overgeneralization concerning “the 
>rank hypocrisy of ‘Ford’ and her many anti-CC friends.”
>
>Well, some people were merely concerned about the role that the above noted 
>pastor had in the early release of a criminal who, within a few short 
>weeks, apparently re-offended.
>
>It's one thing for someone to play the role of pastor without a seminary 
>degree or to play the role of historian without a history degree and I can 
>understand how folks might not want to get caught up in such minutia. It is 
>another thing for someone to play the role of councilor for the sexually 
>depraved without any training in this area. What is the difference? The 
>reason why Sitler is back in jail is the answer.
>
>I have nothing against Christ Church or against the majority of people in 
>that church. What I have a problem with is the state of the current debate 
>where each and every criticism gets lumped into one big pile of prejudice.
>
>--
>Joe Campbell
>
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>
>Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 07:27:45 -0700
>From: jeanlivingston <jeanlivingston at turbonet.com>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sitler wore a Kirk-orange
>	jumpsuit:Mr.Schwallerdidnot appear
>To: "g. crabtree" <jampot at adelphia.net>, "Debbie Gray"
>	<graylex at yahoo.com>,	<vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Message-ID: <2edc29895139abec8fc301c8a5467295 at turbonet.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
>
>Frankly, when people start attacking Sgt. Phil Gray, falsely and
>without basis in fact, especially when the complainant doesn't even
>have the law enforcement?job description right, it really is
>nauseating.? Probation and Parole monitors compliance with conditions
>of probation.??Phil does things like putting his life at risk,
>coming in from off-duty and?with?his own vehicle placing himself?in
>the field of fire of a maddened?sniper, twice, so he can rescue
>downed fellow officers, dying and wounded, and get them out of the
>field of fire.?
>
>
>I agree that some people's obsession with Sitler's whereabouts
>certainly seems to have less to do with broad-based community concerns
>and more to do with how to embarrass a church for the
>shortcomings?they perceive in?its pastor.? I sense that many have
>grown weary of the continuing, Sitler-based, attacks on the church
>itself, but when you start throwing verbal napalm beyond that?primary
>target to others, your insensitivityand indiscrimination causes you to
>lose whatever credibility you might have had with?whatever remaining
>folks?were still listening.? Once you have lost the moral high
>ground with these intemperate, ill-advised attacks, your audience and
>ability to influence the rest of the community is lost.
>
>
>Bruce Livingston
>
>
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