[Vision2020] Sitler wore a Kirk-orange jumpsuit:Mr.Schwallerdidnot appear

Joe Campbell joekc at adelphia.net
Wed Jun 20 08:52:30 PDT 2007


I agree with your comments about the inappropriate and wrongful attack on Sgt. Grey and like you I'm grateful for the courage and support that he and others have given to the community.

I want to make a brief response to this comment: "I agree that some people's obsession with Sitler's whereabouts certainly seems to have less to do with broad-based community concerns and more to do with how to embarrass a church for the shortcomings they perceive in its pastor."

All of this may well be true but I’m a little uneasy about the comment following Crabtree’s irresponsible overgeneralization concerning “the rank hypocrisy of ‘Ford’ and her many anti-CC friends.”

Well, some people were merely concerned about the role that the above noted pastor had in the early release of a criminal who, within a few short weeks, apparently re-offended.

It's one thing for someone to play the role of pastor without a seminary degree or to play the role of historian without a history degree and I can understand how folks might not want to get caught up in such minutia. It is another thing for someone to play the role of councilor for the sexually depraved without any training in this area. What is the difference? The reason why Sitler is back in jail is the answer.

I have nothing against Christ Church or against the majority of people in that church. What I have a problem with is the state of the current debate where each and every criticism gets lumped into one big pile of prejudice.

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Joe Campbell

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Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 07:27:45 -0700
From: jeanlivingston <jeanlivingston at turbonet.com>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sitler wore a Kirk-orange
	jumpsuit:Mr.Schwallerdidnot appear
To: "g. crabtree" <jampot at adelphia.net>, "Debbie Gray"
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Frankly, when people start attacking Sgt. Phil Gray, falsely and
without basis in fact, especially when the complainant doesn't even
have the law enforcement?job description right, it really is
nauseating.? Probation and Parole monitors compliance with conditions
of probation.??Phil does things like putting his life at risk,
coming in from off-duty and?with?his own vehicle placing himself?in
the field of fire of a maddened?sniper, twice, so he can rescue
downed fellow officers, dying and wounded, and get them out of the
field of fire.? 


I agree that some people's obsession with Sitler's whereabouts
certainly seems to have less to do with broad-based community concerns
and more to do with how to embarrass a church for the
shortcomings?they perceive in?its pastor.? I sense that many have
grown weary of the continuing, Sitler-based, attacks on the church
itself, but when you start throwing verbal napalm beyond that?primary
target to others, your insensitivityand indiscrimination causes you to
lose whatever credibility you might have had with?whatever remaining
folks?were still listening.? Once you have lost the moral high
ground with these intemperate, ill-advised attacks, your audience and
ability to influence the rest of the community is lost.


Bruce Livingston




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