[Vision2020] Sitler wore aKirk-orangejumpsuit:Mr.Schwallerdidnot appear
Carl Westberg
carlwestberg846 at hotmail.com
Wed Jun 20 08:18:03 PDT 2007
Ditto, Warren. I have known Phil and Debbie for years (though they may not
want to admit that), and we are more than fortunate to have a man of Phil's
character serving us. Carl Westberg Jr.
>From: "Warren Hayman" <whayman at adelphia.net>
>To: "jeanlivingston" <jeanlivingston at turbonet.com>, "g. crabtree"
><jampot at adelphia.net>, "Debbie Gray" <graylex at yahoo.com>,
><vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sitler wore
>aKirk-orangejumpsuit:Mr.Schwallerdidnot appear
>Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 08:03:22 -0700
>
>I don't think I have ever fully and simultaneously agreed with both
>Crabtree and Livingston. I certainly do on this one.
>
>Warren Hayman
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: jeanlivingston
> To: g. crabtree ; Debbie Gray ; vision2020 at moscow.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 7:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sitler wore a
>Kirk-orangejumpsuit:Mr.Schwallerdidnot appear
>
>
> Frankly, when people start attacking Sgt. Phil Gray, falsely and without
>basis in fact, especially when the complainant doesn't even have the law
>enforcement job description right, it really is nauseating. Probation and
>Parole monitors compliance with conditions of probation. Phil does things
>like putting his life at risk, coming in from off-duty and with his own
>vehicle placing himself in the field of fire of a maddened sniper, twice,
>so he can rescue downed fellow officers, dying and wounded, and get them
>out of the field of fire.
>
>
> I agree that some people's obsession with Sitler's whereabouts certainly
>seems to have less to do with broad-based community concerns and more to do
>with how to embarrass a church for the shortcomings they perceive in its
>pastor. I sense that many have grown weary of the continuing,
>Sitler-based, attacks on the church itself, but when you start throwing
>verbal napalm beyond that primary target to others, your insen! sitivity
>and indiscrimination causes you to lose whatever credibility you might have
>had with whatever remaining folks were still listening. Once you have lost
>the moral high ground with these intemperate, ill-advised attacks, your
>audience and ability to influence the rest of the community is lost.
>
>
> Bruce Livingston
>
>
> -----Original message-----
> From: "g. crabtree" jampot at adelphia.net
> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 05:58:25 -0700
> To: "Debbie Gray" graylex at yahoo.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sitler wore a Kirk-orange
>jumpsuit:Mr.Schwallerdidnot appear
>
> > Very well put. I've often tried to point out the rank hypocrisy of
>"Ford" and her many anti-CC friends on this forum in the past but never as
>well as you just did, Thank you. Also, I know how stressful it is when
>fools (or a particular fool in this case) make remarks that call for an end
>to ones livelihood because you wont get on bo! ard with their jihad. Please
>know that no one with an actual functioning cortex wants to see anyone from
>your household deprived of employment or happiness.
> >
> > My best to you and your family,
> > g
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Debbie Gray"
> > To:
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 11:37 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sitler wore a Kirk-orange jumpsuit:
>Mr.Schwallerdidnot appear
> >
> >
> > Dear JFord (or may I call you Jackie?)
> >
> > As the spouse of the Sheriff's Deputy you vilify
> > below, I am, frankly, enraged and nauseated by your
> > ignorant, paranoid remarks about his "duty" to
> > participate in your ridiculous witch hunt against
> > Steven Sitler.
> >
> > JFord writes: "Since it has come as some kind of
> > surprise as to where Sitler was living - at lea! st a
> > surprise to his neighbors - and since we can't seem to
> > get the Sheriff's cooperation in letting their own
> > neighbors know when one of them moves in next door..."
> >
> >
> > "And how about the fact that a Sheriff's Deputy,
> > living in the same neighborhood as Sitler DID NOTHING
> > TO WARN THE OTHER RESIDENTS NOR THE DA NOR THE
> > SHERIFF'S OFFICE that Sitler may be in violation of
> > his parole conditions. THERE's someone that need to
> > have his job yanked!"
> >
> > Who is this "we" of which you speak? Is there a
> > neighborhood watch group I should be introduced to
> > (Citizen Advocates for Christ Church Arrests. CACCA)?
> > And do remind me again where you live, because I don't
> > recall meeting you during the past 10 years I've lived
> > in this neighborhood.
> >
> > Do you know how my husband found out Sit! ler moved in 5
> > houses down from us? I told him. How did I find out?
> > By checking the Idaho State Registered Sex Offender
> > List. Because that's what it's FOR. To provide
> > information accessible to all. He doesn't get secret
> > missives tracking the location and activity of every
> > known criminal / registered sex offender / etc. We
> > have told several of our neighbors since we found out
> > but, unlike YOU, weren't compelled to canvas the
> > neighborhood spreading the word about one person in
> > particular based on your hatred of the church he
> > attended. That seems fairly hypocritical, too, given
> > that there are a few other registered sex offenders
> > living in this same neighborhood (see for example:
> > Buckingham, Robert, 595 W C St., let's see that on the
> > map). Where is the outcry and uproar about this person
> > and his proximity to West Park and the
> &! gt; Almon-Asbury-Lieuellan Park? (Hint, he's closer to
> > both than Sitler was.) He's lived here for a while,
> > but I haven't seen you in the neighborhood stalking
> > him or heard of you harassing the DA, probation
> > office, etc about him.
> >
> > Your motives are so incredibly transparent here and
> > yet you claim to want only to protect the children.
> > Whatever. What about all the registered sex offenders
> > in this county? Not a peep on Vision2020 about any of
> > them until Christ Church was involved.
> >
> > Bill Thompson stated that the location of Sitler's
> > residence is not in violation of his parole. His
> > actions are what triggered his parole violation. How
> > many other individuals have violated their probation
> > or parole guidelines in the past month and for what
> > crimes are they on p/p for? Oh, not keeping track of
> > anyone else, righ! t? My bad.
> >
> > And now not only do I have to worry about Mr. Sitler
> > and his voyeurism, I can now worry about your
> > psychotic stalking behavior. How is it that you know a
> > sheriff's deputy lives in this neighborhood? What have
> > you been doing in this neighborhood? We're surrounded
> > by several dead end streets, it's NOT a neighborhood
> > that people just happen to drive by unless they're
> > here for a reason (stalking, harassment, snooping,
> > surveillance, mentally unstable behaviors of all
> > varieties). Frankly, your comments are creeping me out
> > more than the fact that Steven Sitler lived 5 houses
> > away from us.
> >
> > As for whether the sheriff's office or other law
> > enforcement people or judges or attorneys must alert
> > their neighborhood to every criminal that moves in.I
> > didn't realize it was in the scope of their work to
> > review the terms and conditions of each and every
> > probation and parole client in order to determine
> > whether there is or MAY BE a violation. In fact, it is
> > not. That would be the job of let's call it 'probation
> > and parole.' There are hundreds of people in this
> > town / county who've served time in jail, been
> > arrested, been convicted, etc of a variety of crimes.
> > Why are you limiting your outcry to one particular
> > person? What makes this ONE potential probationer
> > unique to you? Hmmmmm. Could it be?? His affiliation
> > with Christ Church??
> >
> > And ignoring all your other > ignorant because I can't think of any
>more>
> > accusations and outcries, demanding that my husband
> > lose his job for his failure to "WARN THE OTHER
> > RESIDENTS NOR THE DA NOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE that
> > Sitler may be in violation of his parole conditions"
> > is so ridiculously idiotic that you have almost left
> > me speechless.
> >
> > Of all the things that our local law enforcement
> > officers have dealt with in the past 30 days ALONE,
> > and especially my husband because I know exactly what
> > he HAS being dealing with and you have the
> > self-centered, twisted, hate-filled SICK mind to want
> > him fired for .. WHAT? What, exactly was he supposed
> > to do in order to fulfill your fantasy needs of law
> > enforcement services AS APPLIED TO THE NARROW CONFINES
> > OF PEOPLE WHO HATE ANYTHING TO DO WITH CHRIST CHURCH.
> >
> > Perhaps it would be best for you to return to your
> > residence, put the tinfoil back on your windows and
> > shut your mouth. You're not doing this for the
> > children. You're on a hate-motivated witch hunt and it
> > and you are disgusting.
> >
> > Debbi! e Gray
> >
> >
> >
> >
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