[Vision2020] Follow up - Islam the religion of peace!

[Tom Hansen]

Arnold quipped:

 

"When US troops leave, mark my words, Shiites will be dominated by Iran and
running 2/3 of Iraq, including Baghdad. There will also be a war between the
Kurds and Turks in the north. Many people are going to die when US troops
leave and Iran will be unstoppable."

 

Shiites dominated by Iran?  Fascinating concept, Arnold.  You suggest that a
religious sect will be dominated by a geographical location, instead of
vice-versa.

 

You further suggest that there will be war between the Kurds and the Turks.
NEWS FLASH, Arnold!  There has been a war between the Kurds and Turks ever
since Turkish Kurdistan "dissolved" back in the late-80s/early-90s.  Iraqi
Kurdistan is the only region inhabited by Kurds that is globally recognized.

 

See map at:

http://tinyurl.com/2rwagt

 

Remember back in 1991 when the US's King George The Senior promised the
Kurds that he would help them regain Kurdistan if they fought the Iraqi
guard from the north?  To make a long story short, they did and he didn't.

 

As far as Iran overtaking Iraq if/when US troops deploy home, what evidence
have you got to substantiate such a claim?  Just for the heck of it, say
your suspicions are correct.  If US troops were to vacate Iraq, lots of
people will die as Iran marches on Iraq.  What's the option?  Leaving US
troops there and continue to send more and more troops as many of them
return home in flag-draped coffins?  To cover up the fact that Bush never
had an exit strategy or a plan to win the peace in Iraq, we should simply
continue to "feed the monster"?  BULL SH*T!

 

Bring our troops home NOW!!

 

Tom Hansen

Moscow, Idaho

"The Muslim world has been killing each other for centuries over sectarian
stupidity.  I doubt anythng will ever change that."

 - dick Sherwin (October 5, 2006) 

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From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
On Behalf Of Donovan Arnold
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 9:45 PM
To: Andreas Schou
Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com; Carl Westberg
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Follow up - Islam the religion of peace!

 

Andreas,

 

What was true in 2005 is not also true in 2007. I also question the
credibility of CSIS and the Christan Science Monitor as your sources. And
you misunderstand the difference between insurgents and terrorists targeting
US Soldiers. 

 

There are Sunni's afraid of a Shiite government, and there are terrorists
shooting at US Soldiers. They are not the same and do not have the same
cause or objectives. The majority of people targeting US troops are not
Sunnis, Sunnis are targeting Shiites. The foreigners are targeting US
troops. The only reason a Sunni would hit a US soldier is because they are
either don't understand the political situation and Sunni movement, or they
are afraid the US is empowering the Shiites.

 

Iran is also giving arms to the Shiites. When US troops leave, mark my
words, Shiites will be dominated by Iran and running 2/3 of Iraq, including
Baghdad. There will also be a war between the Kurds and Turks in the north.
Many people are going to die when US troops leave and Iran will be
unstoppable.

 

Best,

 

Donovan

 



Andreas Schou <ophite at gmail.com> wrote:

> I also suggest that saying, "The remainder of your post is right-wing
> blather; nonsense that's been refuted so many times I don't need to bother
> with it*." is not from someone that wishes for mature productive dialog.
You
> are saying that you wish only to discuss your points while blanketly
> dismissing others points of view. Do you wish someone to address your
points
> by saying, "That is just left-wing blather: nonsense that has been refuted
> so many times I don't need to bother with it" ? See how that comes across.

It's not my job to catch you up two-year-old news.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0923/dailyUpdate.html

This is from 2005. 2005. Since then, even the US military has admitted
that there are few foreign fighters in Iraq, and those few that are
are largely from Algeria, rather than Syria or Iran. There's little
evidence that Syria and Iran -- Syria especially -- are involved in
the ongoing civil war in Iraq.

Iran does have a substantial amount of influence over the Shi'a
militias, but I don't think we can complain, as there's virtually a
1:1 overlap between the Iraqi police force and Shi'a sectarians.

-- ACS

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