[Vision2020] Mr. Schwaller Preyed All Day
Bob Herodotus
bherodotus at yahoo.com
Sun Jun 3 19:45:06 PDT 2007
Dear Mr. Schwaller,
You will recall that about two weeks ago, I wrote, “Sitler learned from Wilson how to create opportunities by misrepresentation and then pounce on weakness the moment he saw it.” And you will recall that this particular post sent you over the edge into an “I am not Doug Wilson, I just act like him” fit of rage.
I call this to your attention because you responded to “Let Us Prey” according to this modus operandi. You did not acknowledge that the author of the post predicated his argument on Douglas Wilson’s formal fallacy of affirming the consequent, and you did not acknowledge that the writer illustrated his point with one example of kirkers being inconsistent with their own beliefs, when they should not. Then you made the extraordinary leap from God answering the Kirk’s imprecatory prayers to God sending JH to Moscow for some unknown slight. In other words, you twisted the argument and superimposed your perversion on me:
“It sounds to me as if you are saying Christ Church is an enemy of God, offered an imprecatroy prayer to God improperly, and as punishment for that, God sent Steven Sitler to abuse their children. Did I get that right? Is that how the God you believe in functions?? Did God send us Jason Hamilton for some unknown slight to Him or some other poor soul?”
Can you see your misrepresentation? It’s clear that you wanted to create weakness, or vulnerability in my position, so that you could exploit it by pitting your straw man against the community. Mr. Schwaller, your style (in this post) reminds me of Doug Jones — the Kirk’s sidewinder. He might look cute and chubby, like the Pillsbury Dougboy; but that plump little reptile glides rather smoothly, dripping sincerity with each deception, so that he can position himself to lunge on his prey.
But the Kirk’s cold-blooded elder is not my point; my point is that your misrepresentation constitutes one more proof that you suffer from a terminal case of “I am not Doug Wilson, I just act like him” disease. Think about it. You used deceit to gain the moral high ground. This is classic Wilson who holds deceit as a virtue to take dominion, which brings us back to point.
Doug Wilson and Doug Jones cultured an environment where treachery is a virtue, and Steven Sitler thrived in their treacherous culture. Indeed, he flourished as they taught him to create susceptibility in his victims through guile. Ironically, they taught him, by example, right here on Vision 2020. The Kirk’s predatory elders taught the Kirk’s God-sent predator to sharpen his skills in this very forum. Now that’s ironic. It also leads to my final point.
Your attempt to CONTROL THE CONVERSATION has failed and I remind you of my outstanding request for you to tell us “in what capacity you ‘worked for several months with Mr Sitler and other sex offenders in our area’ and how we may confirm this claim.” I am certain the answer to this request will help you discover the Schwaller within.
Thank you,
Bob Herodotus
----- Original Message ----
From: Glenn Schwaller <vpschwaller at gmail.com></vpschwaller at gmail.com>
To: Bob Herodotus <bherodotus at yahoo.com></bherodotus at yahoo.com>; vision2020 at moscow.com
Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2007 2:56:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] A Sabbath Contemplation for Mr. Schwaller — Let Us Prey
Dear Mr Herodotus
Thank you for the information. Since Poohs Blog or Poohs Speak (I don't remember what it's called) seems to be down at the present time, I have no way of reading all the information that is available.
As I understand it, imprecatory prayer asks for God to destroy His enemies. To me, the "His" indicates enemies of God, not the enemies of some poor guy who thinks he's being persecuted. An enemy of Doug Wilson (or you, or me, or anyone) is not necessarily an enemy of God. Even if you or I or Doug Wilson THINK someone is an enemy of God, doesn't make it so. So I guess it's up to God to determine if the enemies against whom the imprecatory prayers were offered were enemies worthy of being punished in His name.
It sounds to me as if you are saying Christ Church is an enemy of God, offered an imprecatroy prayer to God improperly, and as punishment for that, God sent Steven Sitler to abuse their children. Did I get that right? Is that how the God you believe in functions?? Did God send us Jason Hamilton for some unknown slight to Him or some other poor soul? If so, you may keep your God; mine would never be so evil and callous.
There was what I felt to be a divinely inspired service at the Presbyterian Church this morning. At no time this morning did I feel the presence of an cruel, insensitive God. When I do, it's time to find another God.
Schwaller
As far as Douglas Wilson's thoughts on rape, I find them to be abhorrent.
On 6/3/07, Bob Herodotus <bherodotus at yahoo.com></bherodotus at yahoo.com>wrote:
Dear Mr. Schwaller,
Continuing our education in the ABCs of Doug Wilson, you recall that I told you that a local blogger broke the story about Steven Sitler and Pastor Wilson's failure to warn his flock. Well, exactly one year ago today, that blogger posted the following essay on his website, which I lifted and archived for the benefit of folks like you. You will notice that I used this post as the template for my previous contemplation:
Douglas Wilson has adopted a policy of affirming the consequent, which is the logical fallacy holding that the proposition "if A then B" necessitates the proposition "if B then A," even though "if B then A" is plainly false. For example, Scripture teaches that, as a rule, righteous people will suffer persecution for their righteousness; but Scripture does not teach that everyone who experiences opposition is living righteously, which is the position advanced by Wilson when he points to all of the Kirk's internal and external grief, saying, "We must be doing something right." And while it may be true that Christ Church and its affiliated ministries may be doing something right, it is certainly true that they are doing many things wrong — very wrong — such as prayer.
Perhaps you could reflect upon the Kirk's imprecatory-prayer policy and its possible relation to Steven Sitler's serial predation of Kirk children. From June 2003 through July 2003, Christ Church conducted imprecatory-prayer meetings — daily — asking God to visit judgment upon their "enemies." Steven Sitler arrived in Moscow to attend New Saint Andrews College in August 2003. And if you believe that God answers prayer, then this fact deserves serious contemplation, especially in light of Douglas Wilson's thoughts on rape, in his book "Fidelity":
"Violent rape is a judgment of God upon a people. . . This does not justify the perpetrators; it is simply the recognition that when disaster befalls a city, sexual disaster for the women is part of this. This does not mean that a woman who is raped should assume any personal responsibility for it; she is innocent. . . Violent rape is God's judgment on a culture, and individual women who are part of that culture are included in the judgment. But this does not mean that they as individuals "deserved" it. . . . We see the same judgment at work in disintegrating cultures: 'Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil' (Eccl. 8:11). Here the rape is not being perpetrated by foreign soldiers, but is the result of citizens turning on one another. Every culture is a gathering of sinners, and so rape is always a possibility. But when God's hand of judgment is heavy upon a people, women are in
far greater danger of sexual assault than at other times." (Douglas Wilson, "Fidelity: What It Means To Be a One-Woman Man" [Moscow: Canon Press, 1999] 82, 83)
If this serial pedophilia had taken place in the local government school system, Wilson would have wagged his finger at the disintegrating culture, and if a person against whom the Kirk utters their imprecatory prayers had suffered a similar hard providence, Wilson would fill the web with gloats and jeers. But now we see that God has visited the unspeakable upon Christ Church, and He did it at the exact time when they labored in prayer beseeching harm upon their neighbors. This should not go unnoticed.
Douglas Wilson's enemy theology cultivates selfishness, implants acrimony, fosters revenge, and breeds hate. It is a culture of death. It is a culture under "God's hand of judgment." And the Kirk's enemy theology reached its zenith in the summer of 2003, when they asked for pain, calamity, torment, and affliction upon others; and God Almighty answered their imprecations with one of their own citizens. God sent them Steven Sitler to rape helpless and innocent children.
But the point is not Sitler's abuse. These dear loved ones who suffered at Sitler's hands are not merely victims of child molestation; they are victims of profound spiritual abuse. They are victims of Doug Wilson's enemy theology. And if the Kirk wants relief, or even mercy, then they should seek it at the very place where they scorned it — on their knees, in prayer.
Thank you.
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