[Vision2020] [CORRECTED again, oops, sorry]] RE: 11 year girl
Tom Hansen
thansen at moscow.com
Thu Jul 26 07:09:49 PDT 2007
That is why I specifically stated "police department", Tim. They deal with
situations more often and more readily than a city council.
Here is a quote that I am extremely certain will be echoed on local blogs
extensively and repeatedly.
City councils make mistakes.
There. I said it.
Seeya round town, Moscow.
Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho
"We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. The college
students are not very active in local elections (thank goodness!)."
- Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)
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From: TIM RIGSBY [mailto:tim.rigsby at hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 6:49 AM
To: Tom Hansen; 'Kai Eiselein'; vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] 11 year girl
Not necessarily the City Police Department, but I believe that it was the
City Council of the town of Greenleaf, ID that made headlines this spring
for passing a ordinance requesting that every head of household purchase and
retain firearms for the protection of the community. The ordinance said
something like buy guns, get trained on how to use them, and then use them
if needed to protect your family and your town.
I could be wrong though.
" 'Politics is the art of controlling your environment.' That is one of the
key things I learned in these years, and I learned it the hard way. Anybody
who thinks that 'it doesn't matter who's President' has never been Drafted
and sent off to fight and die in a vicious, stupid War on the other side of
the World -- or been beaten and gassed by Police for trespassing on public
property -- or been hounded by the IRS for purely political reasons -- or
locked up in the Cook County Jail with a broken nose and no phone access and
twelve perverts wanting to stomp your ass in the shower. That is when it
matters who is President or Governor or Police Chief. That is when you will
wish you had voted." - Hunter S. Thompson
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From: thansen at moscow.com
To: fotopro63 at hotmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 05:30:40 -0700
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] 11 year girl
A couple questions, Kai (although they have been asked and not answered):
Could you explain to us how introducing more firearms into the public venue
is going to reduce the number of violent crimes?
Can you provide us evidence that ANY city's police department encourages its
citizenry to purchase and possess firearms?
Seeya round town, Moscow.
Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho
"We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. The college
students are not very active in local elections (thank goodness!)."
- Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)
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From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
On Behalf Of Kai Eiselein
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 9:59 PM
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] 11 year girl
Saundra,
Huh? Where did I "defend" an obvious hoax?
I merely pointed out that real, live, verifiable cases of people defending
themselves with a gun actually DO occur.
On a fairly regular basis even.
It was YOU who decided to use the typical radical left wing tactic of using
a child's death to try to make a point. (Just like the typical radical right
wing tactic of saying immigrants are ruining the country)I used the fact
that a very high number of children die from drowning, which, like firearm
deaths, are completely preventable.
Unfortunately, the CDC doesn't give a complete age breakdown on firearm
deaths. (People 20 and under are considered "children") I used to have a
better age breakdown, which showed more young kids died of drowning in the
home than did by firearm. If I run across it, I'll post it.
You, Saundra are the one who used the terms "gun nuts" and "anti-immigration
nuts".
Sorry, I'm not the nut here, I advocate the legal and responsible possession
and use of firearms. Including the right to defend oneself from intruders.
I also advocate legal, responsible and steady immigration into this country,
NOT the sieve we've got now.
My case isn't weak, it is lawful. The rightful and just application of law
should ALWAYS trump emotion and party dogma.
"Only when one is free of party thought is one free to think independently."
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