[Vision2020] Gore Provides Surprising Reason for Son's Behavior

g. crabtree jampot at roadrunner.com
Tue Jul 17 13:28:28 PDT 2007


I thought I was making myself plain with the phrase "my spurious and totally unfounded allegation 
of your heroin usage," but apparently I was not. I was merely using it by way of an example. I am 
in no way attempting to make false claims or start silly and fraudulent rumors. Even though I believe
 that anyone who read my post and came away with that notion must have the brains of a buttercup, 
I am sorry if anyone came away with the wrong impression and I apologize to Mr.Campbell if his 
reputation was sullied in any way amongst our august readership.

g

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Campbell" <joekc at adelphia.net>
To: "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>
Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Gore Provides Surprising Reason for Son's Behavior


Gary,

Your analogy is a bad one. There are not scores of websites making scandalous claims about me. As far as I know, there is just one and since some of those claims are based on rumors started by you, your last two posts have me more than a little worried! Nor are the claims about Bush put forth by folks who believe that the allegations do not “reflect reality,” as you noted.

You are also flat-out wrong that "Bush says it didn't happen." He never explicitly denied it. The best that we got was obfuscation: he noted that he never used cocaine while his dad was president. If you can find one explicit quote where Bush denied ever using cocaine, I'll take you out to lunch on my tab, though it will have to be at a modest establishment with fair prices like the One World Cafe. I deny ever using heroin, so there is one other disanalogy about your example.

But all of this is beside the point. The issue isn't whether we should or shouldn't talk about Bush's alleged drug use. My concern is, Why was it never addressed in the mainstream media? The answer can't be that he has no record -- the media has no problem talking about Gore's son, who was arrested but hasn't even gone to trial let alone been convicted. It can't be that Bush was never arrested -- they have no problem talking about Bonds and Giambi. Even if he DID deny it, that can't be it either, given Clinton.

As I remember it, Clinton was hounded by the press about his alleged marijuana use, which led to his "but I didn't inhale" comment. Note, too, that according to Clinton he didn't use the drug -- he issued a much clearer denial than Bush, since you don't use the drug unless you inhale. Yet he is still hounded by folks about it.

I'm not condemning Bush, by the way. And I’m well aware of how stupid and wishy-washy the Clinton comment sounds. I think that the best way to handle it is as Bush did: to not talk about these sorts of things. It isn't as if they are particularly relevant. My question concerns the media. Why wasn't Bush hounded about the allegations? Again, the hounding would have been wrong. I'm just curious why it never happened.

--
Joe Campbell

---- "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com> wrote: 

=============
The same can now be said about my spurious and totally unfounded allegation 
of your heroin usage I used by way of example. Mr. Campbell has made "public 
statements  that, while not confirming those allegations, stop short of 
denying them." The statement is completely true but does not reflect reality 
to the best of my knowledge.

This is not to say that I'm sure that GW didn't put himself up to his 
eyeballs in the nose candy, just that it isn't the given that it is for the 
other fellows you refer to. Clinton and Al, II have publicly admitted to 
their indiscretions, Al III doesn't have to as his criminal record speaks 
for him. Giambi has also admitted out right that he has used steroids and 
human growth hormone. In doing so we can discuss these fellows drug use as 
fact. With GW it remains speculation.

g

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Campbell" <joekc at adelphia.net>
To: "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>
Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 6:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Gore Provides Surprising Reason for Son's Behavior


> There is more to it, Gary. Do some research.
>
> Here, for instance, is what it says in Wikipedia: "Bush has made public 
> statements that, while not confirming those allegations, stop short of 
> denying them."
>
> A better analogy than yours is to compare Bush's drug use with Jason 
> Giambi's steroid use, which the media has little problem noting.
>
> --
> Joe Campbell
>
> ---- "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com> wrote:
>
> =============
> In the case of Clinton and the Gores their drug use was admitted or
> documented. In the case of Bush they are merely alleged. Bush says it 
> didn't
> happen and there is no paper trail in the form of an arrest record to
> contradict him. To discuss it in the same way as Bill and the Al's
> recreational exploits would be similar to me alleging that you were or had
> been a junkie and then berating you for your lack of judgment because of 
> it.
>
> g
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Joe Campbell" <joekc at adelphia.net>
> To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 11:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Gore Provides Surprising Reason for Son's 
> Behavior
>
>
>>I just don't get it.
>>
>> Why is it that Bill's "I didn't inhale!" and Al's previous use of pot --
>> or his son's current use -- are popular topics of political discussion 
>> but
>> our current president's previous cocaine use is never mentioned?
>>
>> --
>> Joe Campbell
>>
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