[Vision2020] And The Beat Goes On!

[J Ford]

Joe says:

I must say, though, that we should all agree not to mention other people's
children in the midst of our critical comments (as Farris did) -- this has 
got
to be way out of line and speaking out against it should be encouraged.

I say:

I agree, 100%.  And apologies need to be extended to those that have been 
mentioned (WITHOUT re-mentioning their names) and the crap should stop.

I apologized - and I am still breathing.  It would not kill some "man" on 
this Board to try it sometime...who knows - mayhaps it would be a start of a 
habit that could be good for the soul.

Isn't being able to receive forgiveness one of the main tenants and 
blessings of the Christian faith?

Thought so.


J  :]





>From: Joe Campbell <joekc at adelphia.net>
>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] And The Beat Goes On!
>Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 22:42:07 -0700
>
>Roger,
>
>I never said that you were a hypocrite. Please read my posts more 
>carefully.
>
>At first I made a hypothetical claim: if I am a hypocrite, then so are you 
>and Crabtree (since you failed to comment against Farris). Then, in the 
>most previous post, I gave you a chance to prove that you weren't a 
>hypocrite by condemning Farris. Of course, just because you don’t prove 
>something it doesn’t follow that it is false.
>
>I think that it is fine that you don't want to speak out against Farris's 
>comments and I respect the reasons that you gave. But a while back you 
>explicitly called me out for failing to speak out against a critic of 
>Schwaller, so I decided to return the favor!
>
>The moral of the story is that we all pick and choose when and whom to 
>criticize, in part based on what we read, who made the post, what bothers 
>us, etc. None of us does it perfectly -- we're human! Failure to criticize 
>is no proof of hypocrisy.
>
>I must say, though, that we should all agree not to mention other people's 
>children in the midst of our critical comments (as Farris did) -- this has 
>got to be way out of line and speaking out against it should be encouraged.
>
>Joe
>
>Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 10:45:53 -0700
>From: lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] And The Beat Goes On!
>To: "Joe Campbell" <joekc at adelphia.net>, vision2020 at moscow.com
>Cc: vision2020-request at moscow.com
>Message-ID: <c711b2645ea37a8bdd239a503ee8f100 at turbonet.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
>I am sorry that Joe thinks I am a hypocrite. I have admonished those on 
>both sides to tone it down and be more civil. As to a reference to some 
>ones son, I may have missed it. I do not read all posts relating to Christ 
>Church. Again I would like to see personal insults by everyone to sease. As 
>to the first quote by Doug Ferris. I thought it was "It is better to remain 
>silent and thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt". I have 
>always attributed it to Cal Coolidge. According to Google it is Abe 
>Lincoln. The version Doug used is close to those of George Elliott and Mark 
>Twain.
>Roger
>
>
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