[Vision2020] learning for the young

Sat Jul 14 14:25:11 PDT 2007

I can tell you what I learned in 1960 Fort Benning. Jim Crow laws were 
still in effect and I found out about a set of rules that I could not 
follow...wonder I wasn't lynched! I didn't even know how much I could 
dislike big bugs...I mean 3 inch jobs that fly like birds. And then there 
was humidity...if this kid or any others training there right now need 
prayer for anything it is dealing with the humidity!! I also learned an 
appreciation for the might of America and its fighting force that even 
John Wayne movies hadn't been able to give me. The Cuban missle crisis 
came up while there and all that equipment that was stored in sheds came 
out. My trip to the base to leave my husband for a week while it was 
decided if he was shipping out was astonishing! So many tanks! So many BIG 
guns! I was so surprised! And obviously very young but I learned so much 
about me and life. By the way, that week that he was on base and I was 
waiting in town with a new baby and Kennedy and his pals played war games 
is another story. 

> <html><div style='background-color:'><P><STRONG>Gary. . . . you may call 
me Ellen. 
Or, if you wish to be formal, it's Mrs. Roskovich.</STRONG></P>
> <P><STRONG>Boxing IS dangerous. . . and makes about as much sense as a 
cock
fight.  It's not for kids.  As hard as I try, I cannot think of one 
positive
life lesson a young person would learn from the experience.</STRONG></P>
> <P><STRONG>Ellen A. Roskovich</STRONG><BR><BR></P>
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> From: <I>"g. crabtree" <jampot at adelphia.net></I><BR>To: <I>"Tom Hansen"
<thansen at moscow.com>,"'Ellen Roskovich'"
<gussie443 at hotmail.com>,<privatejf32 at hotmail.com>,<vision2020 at moscow.com></
I><BR>Subject:
<I>Re: [Vision2020] AND THE BEAT GOES ON!</I><BR>Date: <I>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 
20:40:27
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> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>According to Ms. Roscovich and Ms. Mix it's 
all about the
"danger" and the "physical aggression." In what way do the pieces of paper 
that you refer
to make the event different, more feminine?  Does the notion of men 
getting together
to have a bit of fun with other men leave you feeling uncomfortable? Or is 
it really more
about the who then anything having to do with the what?</FONT></DIV>
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> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It is my understanding that the event 
happened under the
tutelage of a retired professional boxer, that ABA approved headgear was 
worn by all
participants, that absolutely no one was seriously injured (one punch was 
expertly
blocked by the nose of one of the warriors but he lived to tell the tale 
and
more importantly learned a valuable lesson in keeping his gloves up 
and his chin down.) and that a good time was had by all. With all this in 
mind, what
place is it of yours to piss on someone else's parade?</FONT></DIV>
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> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>g</FONT></DIV>
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> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">---- Original Message ----- </DIV>
> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: 
black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=thansen at moscow.com href="mailto:thansen at moscow.com">Tom Hansen</A> 
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> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=jampot at adelphia.net
href="mailto:jampot at adelphia.net">'g. crabtree'</A> ; <A 
title=gussie443 at hotmail.com
href="mailto:gussie443 at hotmail.com">'Ellen Roskovich'</A> ; <A
title=privatejf32 at hotmail.com
href="mailto:privatejf32 at hotmail.com">privatejf32 at hotmail.com</A> ; <A
title=vision2020 at moscow.com 
href="mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com">vision2020 at moscow.com</A>
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> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, July 13, 2007 6:11 
PM</DIV>
> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Vision2020] AND THE 
BEAT GOES ON!</DIV>

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> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-
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navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">g stated:</SPAN></FONT></P>
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> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-
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navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">“The combative sports (boxing, judo, karate, 
wrestling, etc.)
result in far fewer injury's than football, rock climbing, skate boarding, 
mountain biking
and skiing at the amateur level. Even cheer leading results in more 
emergency room visits!
Would you have every "sport" that is potentially dangerous be eliminated 
from the
extracurricular activities list?”</SPAN></FONT></P>
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> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-
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navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">This may very well be true, g, among 
professionals and/or in a
venue specifically designed for that sport with the requisite safety 
measures established
and maintained, not at a school lacking the appropriate facilities and 
void of the
aforementioned safety measures.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-
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navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">In each of the “organized” activities you 
mention (boxing, judo,
karate, wrestling, football, rock climbing, skate boarding, mountain 
biking, skiing,
etc.), there are certain requirements (health, insurance, waivers, etc. 
etc.) that MUST be
accomplished prior to any competitor engaging in their sport.  Based on a 
Viz
discussion, concerning  the Logos School “smokers” (as they are called) a 
while back,
it was painfully evident that NONE of these requirements was even 
considered, much less
accomplished.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE:
10pt; COLOR: navy">Seeya round town, Moscow.<BR><BR>Tom Hansen<BR>Moscow,
Idaho<BR><BR>"We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. 
The college
students are not very active in local elections (thank 
goodness!)."<BR><BR>- Dale Courtney
(March 28, 2007)</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=navy><SPAN style="COLOR: navy">
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