[Vision2020] Women in Authority and Leadership!

[Paul Rumelhart]

Well, I'm not an anti-Wilsonist, nor have I been following most of the 
discussions on the woes of Christ Church.  A good friend of mine is a 
member of the church, and I've met Jim a few times and consider him an 
extremely nice person.  I don't share much, if any, theological concepts 
with that church but I'm a strong proponent of the freedom to worship as 
you wish.  So if the context of your reply went over my head, I apologize.

It appeared to me that you were simply slamming women in response to a 
couple of pro-women-in-the-military posts.  That's the reason for my 
snarky "good Christian" comment.

My handle is "god + shatter", but if you think "god's hatter" fits me 
better feel free to think of it like that.  Or, if you're thinking of 
"shatter" as a scatalogical term, so be it.  It's actually from a 
science-fiction book I like called "A Fire Upon the Deep" by Vernor 
Vinge.  In the book, the term "godshatter" describes the often 
bewildering actions of a character who has been taken over upon occasion 
by an intelligence much greater than his own.  His actions make no sense 
at first, but there is usually a reason that is later recognized for 
them.  The experience usually leaves the victim of it in a mentally 
deranged state, because the process is too damaging to a normal human 
brain - basically shattering it.  I liked the concept, and took the name 
as my own.

Paul

heirdoug at netscape.net wrote:
> Yes, Paul, It is true!
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> All women are just as sinful as all men. They are in need of a Savior 
> just like you or I.
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> But can you imagine what would be traveling around V2020 if either of 
> these women were members of Christ Church here in Moscow?
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> That really was my point. Those that wish to crucify Doug Wilson 
> because of the sins of a few individuals, who happen to sin openly, is 
> the whole reason for most of the comments here on V2020. They only 
> wish to comment negatively when it can be directly or indirectly 
> traced back to Christ Church or Doug Wilson. All of the comments about 
> these two women will come back just like your whiny voice. "Well men 
> do it too!"
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> There will be no outcry for the victims from Deco or J. in any of 
> these situations. No disdain for the perpetrators by Tom Hansan. No 
> call for impeachment of the Judge or the Prosecuting attorney. It will 
> be all quiet on the eastern front.
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> I'm just trying to point out, as a "good" Christian, the disingenuous 
> actions by those that hold their self-righteous candle of truth. That 
> is all.
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> lemeno, Doug
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> PS, Is your "handle" god-shatter or gods-hatter?
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> -----Original Message-----
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> From: Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>
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> To: heirdoug at netscape.net
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> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
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> Sent: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 7:45 am
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> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Women in Authority and Leadership!
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