[Vision2020] Hymn to the Intelligent Designer

[Ralph Nielsen]

Tony, why should we waste our time drawing conclusions about  
theoretical speculation that neither you nor I are in a position to  
know anything about? All we know is that we are products of evolution  
in an ever-changing universe.

Are venomous animals and insects the product of an "overarching  
intelligence"? Are hurricanes, earthquakes and tsunamis? Would you  
design a world like that? If not, why try to attribute it to anything  
intelligent?

Ralph

On Jan 28, 2007, at 5:56 PM, Tony wrote:

> Ralph,  please!  My question, now asked for the third time, was  
> clear:  What is YOUR personal conclusion as to the existence or  
> nonexistence of an overarching intelligence?
>
> Still later,   -T

> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ralph Nielsen"  
> <nielsen at uidaho.edu>
>
>> Tony, are you trying to say that you view the Bible as consistent  
>> or compassionate?
>> Ralph
>>
>> On Jan 28, 2007, at 8:32 AM, Tony wrote:
>>
>>> No Ralph, I quite understand that you don't view the Bible as  
>>> consistent or compassionate.  What I was attempting (for the  
>>> second  time) was to determine what YOUR personal conclusion is  
>>> as to the existence or nonexistence of an overarching intelligence.
>>>
>>> Later,  -T
>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ralph Nielsen"   
>>> <nielsen at uidaho.edu>
>>>
>>>> Tony,
>>>>
>>>> Is God a mean S.O.B.? Not according to himself. By the end of  
>>>> the sixth day of creation "God saw everything that he had made,  
>>>> and  indeed, it was very good" (Genesis 1:31a).
>>>>
>>>> However, later in the Bible God does admit that he is a S.O.B.  
>>>> "I   form light and create darkness, I make weal and create woe-- 
>>>> I the   LORD do all these things" (Isaiah 45:7). The Jewish  
>>>> Study Bible  says that here the word "woe" is the same as  
>>>> "evil." p. 875.
>>>>
>>>> So try to have a pleasant Sabbath, Tony. It will soon be over-- 
>>>> at sundown.
>>>>
>>>> Ralph