[Vision2020] Compassion for All Life

[david sarff]

Yes, this is a troubling factor.
I’m pretty sure there really is not a Soy version of Tony Baloney. He is now 
engaged in seeing his own reflection in others and is striking out at the 
ugliness. Frankly, I openly suppose that he was not loved when he needed it 
most, during developmental years and uses attention seeking tools to verify 
his existence. We literally have the screaming tantrum of a baby when not 
getting attention his way. Sadly this format is used as little more than a 
squeaky toy, like a pet dog might. A child in this position likely needs 
outside forces tending to it, but that is his job now and the best action 
when this situation occurs is to not respond. As you are indeed basically 
pointing out.
We can talk around it though.
This kind of problem will continue on this list and across the globe. To be 
sure there are many persons of differing beliefs, sensitivities, shapes, 
colors and sexes that wisely avoid any emotional stabbing. The content of 
this and other topics is important to many. If the list is to stay open, we 
must cope with even the most selfish and cognitively handicapped.

Thank you Debi,  with no demands or expectations, my invitation remains.
Dave


>>This is why more women are not involved in this particular thread...
>Debi R-S


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>From:           	"Tony" <tonytime at clearwire.net>
>To:             	"Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
>Date sent:      	Sun, 28 Jan 2007 17:35:46 -0800
>Copies to:      	vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject:        	Re: [Vision2020] Compassion for All Life
>
>Tom, for God's sake, would you call what Charles Manson had his
>followers do to Sharon Tate, an "operation?"  How then can you
>characterize the equally barbaric practice of ripping an innocent
>child from it's mother's womb and then summarily trash canning the
>bloody remains, as a medical procedure??
>
>Think, you misguided enabler!  A man who intentionally causes the
>violent death of an innocent child, is NOT a "physician" but simply a
>more polished Charley Manson.  The result is the same: violent and
>unnecessary death.
>
>When judgment day comes, if there is such a thing, may God have mercy
>on your soul, Tom, for countenancing our modern age's most horrific
>crime.
>
>-T
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Tom Hansen
>   To: 'Scott Dredge' ; vision2020 at moscow.com
>   Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 6:05 AM
>   Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Compassion for All Life
>
>
>   Two things that legalizing abortions (prior to the third trimester)
>   accomplishes:
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>   1)  Reduces mandated influence of the government over women's
>   personal lives.
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>   2)  Provides availability of sterilized environments and
>   trained/qualified physicians for such an operation.
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>   To believe that abortions will not occur if they are not legal is
>   absolutely ludicrous.  To believe that the number of abortions has
>   increased since Roe v. Wade is just as ignorant.  Perhaps the number
>   of REPORTED abortions has increased, possibly due to a drastic
>   reduction in abortions being performed in back alleys with coat
>   hangers.
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>
>   Seeya round town, Moscow.
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>
>
>   Tom "I'm Pro-Choice and I Vote" Hansen
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>   Moscow, Idaho
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>
>   "Don't pray in my school and I won't think in your church."
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>   - Author Unknown
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>   From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
>   [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of Scott Dredge
>   Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 10:03 PM To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>   Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Compassion for All Life
>
>
>
>   Tony,
>
>   You can oppose abortion all you want.  The fact is that whether or
>   not abortion remains legalized or whether it is completely banned
>   will not directily impact you.  You personally gain no rights nor
>   lose any rights as abortion restrictions ebb and flow.
>
>   But would your position on "compassion for all life" change at all
>   if you were affected?  For instance, let's say that I need half of
>   your liver to survive because for [insert any reason] my own liver
>   is failing.  Let's say that an operation to split your liver carries
>   no more risk of death to you than that of a woman in child birth.
>   Let's also say that the recovery time from this operation is no more
>   burdensome than what women typically go through from late term
>   pregnancies through child birth.  Your liver will regenerate back to
>   full size 6 months after the operation.  The question then I have
>   for you is this: should you be allowed to make the choice of whether
>   or not to donate half of your liver to save my life or should the
>   government be allowed to strap you to a gurney against your will and
>   take half of your liver to save me in the name of "compassion for
>   all life"?
>
>   Looking forward to your bobbing and weaving response - if you have
>   any response at all.
>
>   -Scott
>
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