[Vision2020] Compassion for All Life

[Scott Dredge]

Tony,

Not flat Tony.  Right on target.  Your answer is "No, the government should not be allowed to 
  strap me to a gurney against my will and take half of my liver to save me 
  in the name of "compassion for all life".  Funny how things change when it's your body in the mix.

-Scott

----- Original Message ----
From: Tony <tonytime at clearwire.net>
To: Scott Dredge <sdredge at yahoo.com>
Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 11:42:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Compassion for All Life



 
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Hey Scott, how's it hanging?  Say, in your 
hypothetical scenario, are there perhaps thousands of individuals and couples 
waiting in the wings to donate a liver to you should I refuse?  Oh my, how 
inconvenient when our metaphor falls flat.  In the case of abortion, of 
course, there are literally thousands of folks waiting around the block to adopt 
the little human being in question, so the bio mother's decision to not be 
involved in it's raising would not condemn it to death.

 

Really Scott, no bobbing and weaving is required to 
defend the right to life of innocent babies, just a modicum of sensitivity and 
vision.  

 

Best,  -T


  ----- Original Message ----- 

  From: 
  Scott Dredge 
  

  To: vision2020 at moscow.com 

  Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 10:03 
  PM

  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Compassion for 
  All Life

  


  
  Tony,

You 
  can oppose abortion all you want.  The fact is that whether or not 
  abortion remains legalized or whether it is completely banned will not 
  directily impact you.  You personally gain no rights nor lose any rights 
  as abortion restrictions ebb and flow.

But would your position on 
  "compassion for all life" change at all if you were affected?  For 
  instance, let's say that I need half of your liver to survive because for 
  [insert any reason] my own liver is failing.  Let's say that an operation 
  to split your liver carries no more risk of death to you than that of a woman 
  in child birth.  Let's also say that the recovery time from this 
  operation is no more burdensome than what women typically go through from late 
  term pregnancies through child birth.  Your liver will regenerate back to 
  full size 6 months after the operation.  The question then I have for you 
  is this: should you be allowed to make the choice of whether or not to donate 
  half of your liver to save my life or should the government be allowed to 
  strap you to a gurney against your will and take half of your liver to save me 
  in the name of "compassion for all life"?

Looking forward to your 
  bobbing and weaving response - if you have any response at 
  all.

-Scott


  ----- 
  Original Message ----
From: Tony <tonytime at clearwire.net>
To: Nick 
  Gier <ngier at uidaho.edu>
Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
Sent: Friday, 
  January 26, 2007 5:42:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Compassion for All 
  Life


  

  Nick, your revered logic would dictate to me that 
  the ONLY species out of how many millions on this planet that is capable of 
  sending space probes beyond the solar system, composing great works of 
  literature or carving David from solid marble, is reasonably viewed as 
  superior to the other lesser endowed species.  Is our existence no more 
  remarkable than a muskrat when we can compose poetry or construct the Twin 
  Towers?

   

  Yes, human being is a biological category, but 
  one of extraordinary uniqueness, endowed over and above the others in a myriad 
  of ways.  They are also, according to our Declaration, deserving of and 
  endowed with, certain unalienable rights, one of which is the right to 
  life.  And therein your dilemma.  You can cling tenaciously to an 
  irrelevancy, are they persons or non persons, but you cannot deny their 
  humanity.  It seems Nick, that you pick and choose which written 
  declarations you will adhere to.  I suppose we all must.  Is the 
  Supreme Court the entity I most trust in deciding these matters, or do I rely 
  on the wisdom of those who drafted the Declaration of Independence and our 
  Constitution?  Guess I'll stick with the latter.  You apparently 
  prefer the former, as is your right.  I will continue to oppose the 
  premeditated killing of innocent human beings, but I am willing to agree to 
  disagree with you if you choose a different path.

   

  Sincerely,   
  -Tony





  
  


  
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