[Vision2020] to Tony and Heirdoug
Tony
tonytime at clearwire.net
Fri Jan 26 07:46:57 PST 2007
Keely, thank you for your thoughtful and gracious reply. I might add
though, that I am not convinced from my own experience that the spelling
example is an aberration. I remain troubled by federal control over
methods, curriculum and discipline, which takes the process out of the hands
of local teachers and administrators.
Never the less, I appreciate your input.
Best, -T
----- Original Message -----
From: "keely emerinemix" <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
To: <tonytime at clearwire.net>
Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] to Tony and Heirdoug
> Sorry, Tony, but your response gets to be shared with mine to Heirdoug.
>
> It is this: Your son's experience was awful and it shouldn't have
> happened. One lapse of common sense and backbone from the school should
> not only be correctable, but ought not contaminate your overall view of
> public schools. The fact that your son's experience was an anomaly
> proves, I think, that the foundation is solid. Not perfect, but solid
> enough to warrant the fixing, the investment, that public support
> provides.
>
> As for Heirdoug's assertion that I lie: Oh, well. Wilson himself has
> said he can't rule out that the congregation of Christ Church has prayed
> imprecatorily against public schools, and I'm guessing that it won't
> matter to Heirdoug anyway.
>
> Nothing else Heirdoug says makes any difference to me one way or the
> other, but I do appreciate Tony's attempt, below, to engage in real
> discussion.
>
> keely
>
>
>
>
> From: "Tony" <tonytime at clearwire.net>
> To: "keely emerinemix" <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
> CC: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Federal control cripples public ed.
> Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 09:35:05 -0800
>
> Keely, let me give you one example of the type of thing which has many
> concerned about public schools verses private schools. My oldest attended
> private school through 8th grade with the exception of third grade, which
> he spent in public school. He is an impeccable speller, an ability I
> certainly envy, and has placed well at several bees. As a result, he had
> no trouble whatever with his third grade spelling list, getting repeated
> 100's, and asked his teacher if he could get a list tailored to his
> advanced ability. The teacher was cooperative and complied immediately.
> Unfortunately, some other parent contacted the school staff in a snit that
> my son was getting a special spelling list. The outrage, huh? Instead of
> telling the parent that such was the case because it was necessary in some
> cases to alter material to fit the individual abilities of students and
> that the students teacher was the best judge of when this was necessary,
> the school immediately denied my son his more challenging list of words
> and had him return to non-learning.
>
> Try to fathom, Keely, how parents who oppose such stupidity could be
> motivated by something other than ignorance, hate or religious fervor.
>
> -T
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "keely emerinemix" <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
> To: <tonytime at clearwire.net>
> Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 7:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] public schools and hope
>
>
>>No, Tony, I leave it up to Kerry to decide if she's unfortunately
>>ill-informed as to the needs of public schools, as many are in Moscow, or
>>if she's blinded by hatred for public schools, as many are in Moscow. I
>>hope that however she votes, she does so after studying the issue clearly.
>>If she has children in the district, she must not be praying imprecatory
>>prayers against public schools, so I'm encouraged. There are enough folks
>>out there praying for their destruction.
>>
>>The real battle is not between those who support this or any other levy
>>and those who don't. That may epitomize some of the conflicts, but the
>>real war is between those who stand for the hope and promise that public
>>education offers and those who despise that hope and promise -- and do so
>>in the name of God.
>>
>>It would seem that those so blinded by hate and religious fervor ought not
>>take offense when I point out their seething devotion to their cause.
>>
>>keely
>>
>>
>>From: "Tony" <tonytime at clearwire.net>
>>To: "keely emerinemix" <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
>>CC: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] MSD is at it again!
>>Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 07:31:13 -0800
>>
>>Well Kerry, do you feel better yet? You are sane, according to Keely, but
>>unfortunately blinded by hate and uncaring.
>>
>>Some Christian isn't she?
>>
>>Best, -T
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "keely emerinemix" <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
>>To: <kerrybecker6924 at hotmail.com>; <deco at moscow.com>;
>><vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 5:53 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] MSD is at it again!
>>
>>
>>>My goodness, Kerry. It's a good thing you're not prone to defensiveness.
>>>
>>>"Sane" in this context was a bit of rhetorical hyperbole; contrasted to
>>>the
>>>idea of worshiping God through a hope for the destruction of public
>>>schools,
>>>it was a parallel. As in, one idea that sounds odd contrasted to
>>>another,
>>>albeit exaggerated, idea.
>>>
>>>How 'bout this: People who vote against the upcoming levy are not
>>>clinically insane.
>>>
>>>They are, however, evidently unaware of the difficulties public schools
>>>face
>>>these days -- or else they're so blinded by hate for them that they don't
>>>really care.
>>>
>>>Feel better?
>>>
>>>keely
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>From: "kerry becker" <kerrybecker6924 at hotmail.com>
>>>To: kjajmix1 at msn.com, deco at moscow.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] MSD is at it again!
>>>Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:57:11 -0800
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Saner people will, we hope, study the facts and vote "yes" on the
>>>levy."
>>>
>>>
>>>Keely- Those of us who vote Against the levy are still "sane."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>From: "keely emerinemix" <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
>>>To: deco at moscow.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] MSD is at it again!
>>>Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:21:52 -0800
>>> >Thanks, Wayne, for the info you presented here. You're right, of
>>> >course, but if one's worship of God requires them to pray for the
>>> >destruction of public schools, well . . . not much is gonna
>>> >penetrate.
>>> >
>>> >Saner people will, we hope, study the facts and vote "yes" on the
>>> >levy.
>>> >
>>> >keely
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >From: "Art Deco" <deco at moscow.com>
>>> >To: "Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] MSD is at it again!
>>> >Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:10:47 -0800
>>> >
>>> >The vapid Lemon-O
>>>cites:
>>> >
>>> >"Iâ?Tve asked this rhetorical question before: why, when the number
>>> >of students are increasing, do the school districts say they need
>>> >more money; and, when the number of students are decreasing, they
>>> >say they need more money?"
>>> >
>>> >1. Inflation, which is greater for some things than others and
>>> >most likely impacts schools more than many other activities.
>>> >
>>> >2. Requirements from the unfunded/underfunded "No Child Left
>>> >Behind," a Bush program which places additional burdens on local
>>> >school districts, but either does not fund these burdens or funds
>>> >them inadequately.
>>> >
>>> >3. More and more parents are unwilling to take the time to
>>> >participate with helping their children with their education thus
>>>
>>> >slowing the rate of education and causing expense for remedial
>>> >actions.
>>> >
>>> >4. Public schools have more and more non-educational problems to
>>> >deal with, many of them wrought by inadequate/irresponsible
>>> >parenting.
>>> >
>>> >5. Etc.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Also Lemon-O, it is nice of you to pass on these nuggets of
>>> >illogical rhetoric from chicken-shit Courtney's web-blot as he
>>> >covers in fear of being found out by those he thinks he is
>>> >preventing from accessing his pathetic efforts to be almost as
>>> >vapid, and certainly at least as dishonest and hypocritical as you
>>> >are.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)
>>> >deco at moscow.com
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >----- Original Message -----
>>> >From: <heirdoug at netscape.net>
>>> >To:
>>><vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>> >Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 3:47 PM
>>> >Subject: [Vision2020] MSD is at it again!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > > My latest installment for those under the ban!
>>> > >
>>> > > Wednesday, January 24, 2007 2:13 PM Right-Mind
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > MSD to send out newsletter to residents regarding levy increase
>>> > > Iâ?Tll post a copy of this as soon as I get it.
>>> > >
>>> > > Iâ?Tve asked this rhetorical question before: why, when the
>>> >number of
>>> > > students are increasing, do the school districts say they need
>>> >more
>>> > > money; and, when the number of students are decreasing, they say
>>> >they
>>> > > need more money?
>>> > >
>>> > > Hereâ?Ts what one local blogger had to say about this:
>>> > >
>>> > > But in this case, and in this
>>>election, I think all these
>>> >standard
>>> > > issues are really beside the point. The real point in this
>>> >election is
>>> > > one of simple affordability. The major industry in town (the
>>> >University
>>> > > of Idaho) is in serious decline. Our Moscow civic leadership has
>>> >been
>>> > > busy chasing new prospective businesses out of town. Within the
>>> >next
>>> > > year, a good portion of the tax base is going to move just across
>>> >the
>>> > > state line, and the businesses in the new mall there will no
>>> >doubt set
>>> > > up some blinking lights to summon Moscow shoppers over. Ross
>>> >Perot's
>>> > > famous phrase about the giant sucking sound comes to mind.
>>> > >
>>> > > Another illustration that comes to mind is the one about
>>> >champagne
>>> > > tastes and a beer budget. And
>>>you can't chase all the champagne
>>> >vendors
>>> > > out of town, and then complain about the beer. As a simple matter
>>> >of
>>> > > economics, tax support for the MSD requires a thriving tax base.
>>> >When
>>> > > you cut the latter, you cut the former. Some might want to
>>> >complain, if
>>> > > this levy goes down, that it was the nefarious work of home
>>> >schoolers,
>>> > > Christian conservatives, or what not. But this one appears to me
>>> >to
>>> > > have been done already, without any opponents of "government
>>> >schools"
>>> > > lifting a finger.
>>> > >
>>> > > No, this was done by the liberals running the Moscow show. You
>>> >can't
>>> > > take a chain saw to the orchard, and wonder resentfully the
>>> >following
>>> > > autumn about the apple shortage.
>>> > >
>>> > > As
>>>reported in today's edition of the Moscow-Pullman Daily News.
>>> > >
>>> > > The Moscow School District is moving forward with plans for its
>>> >$1.97
>>> > > million supplemental levy increase, which will go before voters
>>> >March
>>> > > 27.
>>> > >
>>> > > Superintendent Candis Donicht worked with the districtâ?Ts school
>>> >board
>>> > > members during their Tuesday meeting to develop a draft of an
>>> > > informational newsletter that will hit mailboxes in the coming
>>> >weeks.
>>> > >
>>> > > The newsletter will give a brief explanation of the indefinite
>>> > > supplemental levy. It also will explain how the levy increase
>>> >works,
>>> > > what it will cost taxpayers, and what it pays for within the
>>> >district.
>>> > > The newsletter also will answer other basic questions.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > > Board members discussed changing the time the polls would be open
>>> >for
>>> > > the election. Board clerk Annette Erickson reported to the board
>>> >the
>>> > > effects of a 7:30 a.m. opening of the polls that had been
>>> >suggested at
>>> > > their December meeting by board member Margaret Dibble. The board
>>> > > decided to maintain its current plan to have the election from 8
>>> >a.m.
>>> > > to 8 p.m. at the Exhibit Building of the Latah County
>>> >Fairgrounds.
>>> > >
>>> > > Board members also discussed how to support and offer their
>>> >assistance
>>> > > to groups of parents who want to support the levy.
>>> > >
>>> > > In other news, Donicht reported on the districtâ?Ts first
>>> >participation
>>> > > in the city of Moscowâ?Ts 18-month long-range planning process.
>>>
>>> >Three
>>> > > district administrators and two board members participated in a
>>> > > facilitator training session about 10 days ago. If selected by
>>> >the
>>> > > city, they will go into sections of the community to help gather
>>> >input
>>> > > from residents on issues such as neighborhoods and growth.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
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