[Vision2020] List Impact

david sarff davesway at hotmail.com
Thu Jan 18 15:42:24 PST 2007


Dear Pat,Tim, et al.
I don’t think we can measure the full value yet. It would be hard to deny 
that it didn’t impact Alturas, Wal-Mart , third street bridge,  D street 
stop sign, the highway south, the last election…lots of things really.
Pat is correct within one or two band widths of frequency. The CC and other 
lightning rod issues along with our individual  expression of opinion, take 
up a lot of space. This form of communication is very young though. There 
are several levels of interaction sorting themselves out. It is crude and I 
wouldn’t expect things to smooth out for many years.
I happen to believe in evolution. It is a very slow process of nature and 
none of us get the option of fast forward beyond our present capabilities 
and this includes the ability to understand others and have them understand 
us.
Things come in waves here. I remember a long going argument about gun rights 
that went on and on and on before the CC thing happened . Not a word on that 
in years now.
Mr. Wilson came in here and did quickly set himself up as a lighting rod. 
But beyond Tom and Doug F’s antics, that realm of discussion has evolved 
some. The wolf discussion going on now is good. There is a variety of stuff. 
I don’t think Tom Trail , Shirley Ringo or Jennifer McFarland would post 
anything if they didn’t think there was value to the community here.
As for myself, this community has gone through some growth oriented changes 
that have seriously damaged my sense of identity that is personally and 
deeply founded in a wholly different kind of community. One where you just 
about knew everyone you passed on the street. Its as if somebody is 
Picassoing  the Palouse with readjustments of familiar surroundings. This 
medium has made up for at least some of the dysphoria I feel about all that 
and so it is very welcome.
Could it be better, well, sure thing about that.
Dave

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>No, v2020 really has no real affect on Moscow...most of the people in this 
>community do not even know it exists. Others have tried it and given up in 
>disgust. Only an elitists few actually read it every day and post anything 
>only some of which is actually valuable. It has become known as a site 
>wherein attacks on Doug Wilson are so personal as to be slanderous. And 
>those looking to throw out Christ Church have turned this site into a hate 
>factory. On many occasions when I have been introduced to someone here in 
>town I hear many comments on what and who posts and the hate that is here. 
>J ford, Joan and others have ruined it for so many. The progress of Moscow 
>is not and I repeat NOT tied to Christ Church.
>Yes, I also post here and read what is being said and on occasion even post 
>something usually just to present something of another view point. But of a 
>22 thou population why would anyone think that those who post here have any 
>influence on the rest of this city? Vision 2020 is not about and forward 
>vision for Moscow it is a place where in J ford and others can attack and 
>individual and a church with their personal hate and try to make others 
>believe it all...Oh! and of course it is in the name of religion.
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Tim Lohrmann
>   To: Vision2020 at moscow.com
>   Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 10:42 AM
>   Subject: [Vision2020] List Impact
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>   All,
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>   A subscriber to another list I check occasionally asked an interesting 
>question the other day.
>   One that might be worth discussing here as well.
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>   It was simply: "Overall, does this list have a positive or negative 
>impact on the community."
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>   What about V2020's impact?
>
>   Later,
>     TL
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>   "Those 'technicalities' have a name, Bobby. They're called the Bill of 
>Rights."
>                                                                            
>     ----Hank Hill
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