[Vision2020] Doug Wilson Interview

[Sue Hovey]

I think perhaps, you have discovered one of Doug's secrets.  It has been 
quite a while since I had a conversation with him, but I find him articulate 
and arrogant when he writes, and articulate and convivial when the 
conversation is one-on-one.

This is not to say I take any comfort in what he says. Just reading the bit 
you have posted--a woman who doesn't understand her submission depicts a 
superordinate-subordinate relationship is simply fooling herself.  And a man 
who promotes female submission as a component of equality shouldn't be 
fooling anyone.

Sue
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chasuk" <chasuk at gmail.com>
To: "Vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 10:10 AM
Subject: [Vision2020] Doug Wilson Interview


> Last year, I interviewed Doug Wilson to discover for myself whether he
> was really a  bogeyman.  What did I discover?  Briefly, I concluded
> that he wasn't a bogeyman.  We disagreed on many particulars, but Doug
> was guilty largely of being passionate and articulate, and not of
> being evil incarnate, as he is often depicted on Vision2020.  This
> realization caused me problems, because I knew that I would now be in
> a position of defending a man with whom I was often profoundly at
> loggerheads, a man whom many of my Vision2020 friends devoted a
> considerable amount of energy opposing.  Hence I delayed the
> publication of my interview. The longer I delayed, the easier it
> became to prolong that delay, until it became obvious even to myself
> that my actual intent was to postpone publication forever.
>
> If you are passionate, articulate, and the focus of public attention
> (which unarguably describes Doug Wilson),  you will inevitably say
> things that make people mad.  The exceptions to this are the overly
> political, insincere bootlickers whose only goal is to curry
> adulation.  Doug Wilson is is neither insincere nor a bootlicker.  I
> know, this defense makes me sound like a Doug Wilson fanboy, perhaps
> an acolyte.  All I can say is, t'aint true.
>
> I am presenting today the first of several excerpts from the Doug
> Wilson interview.  They are unexpurgated, unedited, verbatim, but
> presented piecemeal because I want each portion to be debated
> separately, and not have any one part become chewed over excessively
> while ignoring the rest.  Unfortunately, I've witnessed this behavior
> too many times on Vision2020.  While I do acknowledge that it also
> happens elsewhere, it is Vision2020 that I am concerned about, because
> Vision2020 is an important microcosm of the community that I have made
> my home.
>
> I know that some of you consider Doug Wilson the enemy.  Maybe he is;
> I am certainly sympathetic to those who advance that argument.
> However, at the end of the day, I don't think that it makes any
> difference, and that we harm ourselves by standing on opposite sides
> of an imaginary line shouting epithets.  We don't need to get in bed
> with our enemies, but we do need to intelligently negotiate with them.
> Sikhs, Jews, Muslims need to interoperate peaceably, despite their
> private differences.  Baptists and Methodists need to tolerate
> Mormons, Catholics, and even Calvinists.
>
> Below, find my first tiny excerpt (which I immodestly hope will aid in
> my proposed remediation):
>
> "Despite not wanting to blur things, they get blurred anyway, at least
> in the minds of the public."
>
> "My marriage is based on mutual giving.  Nancy, my wife, is my full
> equal, with different roles, different spheres."
>
> "Submission does not equal inequality."
>
> "Authority is assumed by sacrifice and love."
>
> One of my big tasks is to socialize men, to civilize men, to impose
> some social constraint for a man to be a gentleman to a woman, to be
> honorable to a woman."
>
> "Men should be channeled because men are so dangerous when they aren't."
>
> "What happens when the masculine sensibilities are subordinated to the
> feminine?  Civilization."
>
> "When men do what they would do without restraint, things fall apart."
>
> "Reality is not optional.  Men are like a lit stick of dynamite."
>
> -
> "Intolerance betrays want of faith in one's cause." -- Mahatma Gandhi
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