[Vision2020] Selling Latah Health Services
Saundra Lund
sslund at roadrunner.com
Wed Jan 10 18:37:51 PST 2007
Interesting . . . I'm the exact opposite: I want primary use of the
property to remain community health care. Accordingly, I'd be willing to
vote for removal of the reversionary clause if and only if a *reputable*
(and preferably non-profit) health care entity with a solid track history
gets the property. I'm absolutely unwilling to support removal of the
reversionary clause in a vacuum..
It seems to me that if we vote to remove the reversionary clause without
regard to the buyer, we're leaving ourselves wide open to all kinds of
unpleasant things that have *nothing* to do with vital health care but may
have a whole lot to do with lining the pockets of private entities at the
expense of the loss of an important community health mandate.
JMHO,
Saundra Lund
Moscow, ID
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-----Original Message-----
From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
On Behalf Of lfalen
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 4:13 PM
To: gweitz at moscow.com; Donovan Arnold; Debbie Gray; vision2020
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Selling Latah Health Services
> Thanks Jerry
> I hope that the Commissioners read Murf's Editorial. If the February vote
is only to remove the reversionary clause I will vote to remove it. If it is
tied to Gritman I will vote against it. Again Gritman may be the best bet.,
but lets look at all options. If one of the organizations is Spokane is
interested in it, we need to know what their proposals are.
>
> Roger
> -----Original message-----
> From: Jerry Weitz gweitz at moscow.com
> Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 23:53:17 -0800
> To: lfalen lfalen at turbonet.com, "Donovan Arnold"
> donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com, "Debbie Gray" graylex at yahoo.com,
> vision2020 vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Selling Latah Health Services
>
> > About two weeks ago, I contacted two nursing homes in the Spokane
> > area. Both of which were/are care givers to family members. Both
> > made inquiries to the commissioners. I asked both to contact
> > Gritman and B J Swanson. I was the dental consultant (unpaid)for
> > Latah Health for years and thus would like to see skilled nursing/
> > long term care remain in the area. Having to send folks out of town
> > and maybe out of reach of family and friends is not in the area's best
interest.
> >
> > Both of the long term care facilities are private. The nursing home
> > industry is highly regulated. Some, in the industry, say it is more
> > regulated than the nuclear power industry. Thus, LHS, due to its
> > structure and its limited ability to use its property as collateral,
> > was at a distinct disadvantage.
> >
> > One of the Spokane privates delivers a substantial amount of
> > indigent care. This home has 84 skilled nursing beds, 120 regular
> > beds, and a physical therapy unit. Its facilities are on par with
> > Good Sam. The other has about 34 skilled nursing, a substantial
> > assisted living capacity and very high end. Both were interested
> > in committing to our area under the right conditions. My
> > impression,after one of the CEO's talked with BJ, was that Gritman
wanted to retain control and the nursing home would be
> > secondary players. Frankly, I do not know if this would work. We, as
a
> > community, may want to explore our future needs recognizing Gritman
> > as a great asset, but not a long term care provider.
> >
> > I think that we are being rushed into a corner without exploring
> > other possibilities and agree with Murf on just voting on the
> > reversionary clause. I certainly do not want to have Gritman lose
> > interest, have the facility change into a housing development, or
confuse the public.
> >
> > Jerry (Just returned from 10 days in sunny Arizona)
> >
> >
> > At 10:12 AM 1/5/07, lfalen wrote:
> > >Donovan has some good points here. What is the hurry in putting it
> > >to the voters? The only thing left is the pool and Gritman is
> > >running it. Why spend $20,00 on a vote that has only the option of
> > >Gritman or the status quo? Would not it have been better to
> > >publicly solicit interest from prospective bidders. There are two
> > >unsolicited bidders offering in excess of $200,000, both of which
> > >would keep the pool open. Why would it have not been wise to see
> > >who else was interested, before a costly vote is taken and might
> > >result in putting us back were we are now. Gritman may very well be
> > >the best bet, but we do not know that. Apparently a group in
> > >Spokane was interested in it as assisted living facility. All options
should be on the table before a costly vote is taken.
> > >
> > >Roger
> > >-----Original message-----
> > >From: Donovan Arnold donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
> > >Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 00:41:41 -0800
> > >To: Debbie Gray graylex at yahoo.com, vision2020
> > >vision2020 at moscow.com
> > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Selling Latah Health Services
> > >
> > > > Debbie,
> > > >
> > > > My first fear is that the building will no longer be used to
> > > > provide
> > > a place of care for the indigent elderly and disabled members of
> > > the Palouse community. I think that in the near future a building
> > > will be needed for this purpose.
> > > >
> > > > My second fear is that the county will be duped, in that the
> > > > building
> > > will not be used for the purposes that Gritman wishes due to high
> > > costs of renovation and maintenance. I think that the building
> > > will simply be used as office space leased out by Gritman. What
> > > else can they possibly afford to use the building for? The
> > > renovation costs to convert that building for what they want will cost
more than just building a new building.
> > > >
> > > > My third major fear is that millions of dollars that the
> > > > taxpayers
> > > have invested over the last 50 years into the building will be
> > > tossed, or given away. We will be losing a multimillion dollar
> > > investment because we don't want or cannot spend the money to
> > > maintain and repair the building at this moment in time.
> > > >
> > > > The generation that fought in WWII and understands sacrifice,
> > > sacrificed to have that building build so that they, their
> > > children and grandchildren would have a decent place to live in
> > > the event that they lose their independence.
> > > >
> > > > I would be willing to sell the building to Gritman provided that:
> > > >
> > > > 1) The therapy pool was kept open and maintained for members
> > > > of the
> > > community
> > > > 2) In the event that Gritman could not start the modifications
> > > > as
> > > promised within five years, the building ownership reverts back to
Latah.
> > > > 3) That the building be used for Non-Profit community needs ONLY.
> > > > 4) That any offers to maintain and operate the facility as an
> > > assisted living of skilled nursing facility take precedence over
> > > any other proposals for use of the space.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > >
> > > > Donovan J Arnold
> > > >
> > > > PS, I would not be overly objective to using a portion of the
> > > building as an alternative High School.
> > > >
> > > > PSS, Why does Gritman want to own the portion of property
> > > > where the
> > > child care center is located?
> > > >
> > > > Debbie Gray <graylex at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > So what are the main complaints against this proposal?
> > > > That Gritman might change their mind and not provide the
> > > > services they are intending? That Latah County is somehow going
> > > > to lose out by letting this happen because....?
> > > >
> > > > Too tired to devil's advocate myself,
> > > >
> > > > Debbie Gray
> > > >
> > > > --- "B. J. Swanson" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Visionaries,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Gritman Medical Center's Proposal to Purchase and Letter of
> > > > > Intent regarding Latah Health Services can be found by
> > > > > visiting Gritman's website (the front
> > > > > page) at www.gritman.org ,
> > > > > and clicking on the
> > > > > "Proposal to Purchase and Letter to Latah County Regarding
> > > > > Latah Health Services" link in the bottom right hand corner.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Gritman will continue to update the website with more
> > > > > information and plans as they become available.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > B. J. Swanson
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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