[Vision2020] URGENT BULLETIN...

[Matt Decker]

Lets not forget about Tim McVeigh and what the US did to the Native 
Americans.

Matt


>From: "Donald Huskey" <donaldrose at cpcinternet.com>
>To: "'Tony'" <tonytime at clearwire.net>, <nickgier at adelphia.net>
>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] URGENT BULLETIN...
>Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 10:23:03 -0800
>
>I'm sure that the racist Muslim bashers on this post will flame me for this
>but I'm concerned that the discussion of violence caused by religious
>fundamentalists is being too one sided.
>We all know that of course it was Muslims who assassinated all of the
>abortion doctors in the U.S., that blew up the Southern Black Churches, 
>that
>immolated Hiroshima and Nagasaki, that firebombed Tokyo and Dresden, that
>are currently kidnapping so called terrorists in other nations-sending them
>to third nations for torture while violating the very principles of the
>American democracy, who until recently have lynched black Americans for
>decades, who for centuries kept black Americans in slavery, who revolted 
>and
>committed treason against this country, and who currently are involved in
>actions which have been dubbed American Fascism.
>I have no truck with terrorists but we have enough blood on our own hands
>that I think we need to be very careful about racism and intolerance. I
>wonder if the Patriot Act could be turned against different groups if a
>different party were to be in power--maybe against the Christian
>Fundamentalists. Be careful what powers you grant to the government because
>as power shifts they may be turned against the very group that enacted 
>them.
>
>Don Huskey
>
>It is not the critic who counts;not the man who points out how the strong
>man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit
>belongs to the man who is actually in the arena. T. Roosevelt 1910.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
>On Behalf Of Tony
>Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 11:38 PM
>To: nickgier at adelphia.net
>Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] URGENT BULLETIN...
>
>Wow!  Thanks Nick for advising us that we were all wrong when it came to
>those peace loving Muslims.  Golly, how could we have overlooked the truth?
>Everyone knows, afterall, that the loonies who brought down our twin towers
>were Christians and Jews.  Why, those humanitarians who worship Allah had
>nothing to do with it.
>
>Gee whiz, it sure is humbling to be corrected by such an incredible scholar
>like you.
>
>-Tony
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <nickgier at adelphia.net>
>To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 11:15 PM
>Subject: [Vision2020] Moderate Muslims Speak Out
>
>
> > Surprise, Surprise!  It does not take special head gear to believe that
> > terrorist attacks are justified.  Let's get beyond the stereotypes and
> > embrace each other as brothers and sisters in a world community.
> >
> > The myth of Muslim support for terror
> >
> > The common enemy is violence and terrorism, not Muslims any more than
> > Christians or Jews.
> >
> > By Kenneth Ballen, Christian Science Monitor, 2-23-07
> >
> > WASHINGTON
> >
> > Those who think that Muslim countries and pro-terrorist attitudes go
> > hand-in-hand might be shocked by new polling research: Americans are 
>more
> > approving of terrorist attacks against civilians than any major Muslim
> > country except for Nigeria.
> >
> > The survey, conducted in December 2006 by the University of Maryland's
> > prestigious Program on International Public Attitudes, shows that only 
>46
> > percent of Americans think that "bombing and other attacks intentionally
> > aimed at civilians" are "never justified," while 24 percent believe 
>these
> > attacks are "often or sometimes justified."
> >
> > Contrast those numbers with 2006 polling results from the world's
> > most-populous Muslim countries - Indonesia, Pakistan, Bangladesh, and
> > Nigeria. Terror Free Tomorrow, the organization I lead, found that 74
> > percent of respondents in Indonesia agreed that terrorist attacks are
> > "never justified"; in Pakistan, that figure was 86 percent; in 
>Bangladesh,
>
> > 81 percent.
> >
> > Do these findings mean that Americans are closet terrorist sympathizers?
> >
> > Hardly. Yet, far too often, Americans and other Westerners seem willing 
>to
>
> > draw that conclusion about Muslims. Public opinion surveys in the United
> > States and Europe show that nearly half of Westerners associate Islam 
>with
>
> > violence and Muslims with terrorists. Given the many radicals who commit
> > violence in the name of Islam around the world, that's an understandable
> > polling result.
> >
> > But these stereotypes, affirmed by simplistic media coverage and many
> > radicals themselves, are not supported by the facts - and they are
> > detrimental to the war on terror. When the West wrongly attributes 
>radical
>
> > views to all of the world's 1.5 billion Muslims, it perpetuates a myth
> > that has the very real effect of marginalizing critical allies in the 
>war
> > on terror.
> >
> > Indeed, the far-too-frequent stereotyping of Muslims serves only to
> > reinforce the radical appeal of the small minority of Muslims who peddle
> > hatred of the West and others as authentic religious practice.
> >
> > Terror Free Tomorrow's 20-plus surveys of Muslim countries in the past 
>two
>
> > years reveal another surprise: Even among the minority who indicated
> > support for terrorist attacks and Osama bin Laden, most overwhelmingly
> > approved of specific American actions in their own countries. For 
>example,
>
> > 71 percent of bin Laden supporters in Indonesia and 79 percent in 
>Pakistan
>
> > said they thought more favorably of the United States as a result of
> > American humanitarian assistance in their countries - not exactly the
> > profile of hard-core terrorist sympathizers. For most people, their
> > professed support of terrorism/bin Laden can be more accurately
> > characterized as a kind of "protest vote" against current US foreign
> > policies, not as a deeply held religious conviction or even an 
>inherently
> > anti- American or anti-Western view.
> >
> > In truth, the common enemy is violence and terrorism, not Muslims any 
>more
>
> > than Christians or Jews. Whether recruits to violent causes join gangs 
>in
> > Los Angeles or terrorist cells in Lahore, the enemy is the violence they
> > exalt.
> >
> > Our surveys show that not only do Muslims reject terrorism as much if 
>not
> > more than Americans, but even those who are sympathetic to radical
> > ideology can be won over by positive American actions that promote
> > goodwill and offer real hope.
> >
> > America's goal, in partnership with Muslim public opinion, should be to
> > defeat terrorists by isolating them from their own societies. The most
> > effective policies to achieve that goal are the ones that build on our
> > common humanity. And we can start by recognizing that Muslims throughout
> > the world want peace as much as Americans do.
> >
> > . Kenneth Ballen is founder and president of Terror Free Tomorrow, a
> > nonpartisan, nonprofit organization dedicated to finding effective
> > policies that win popular support away from global terrorists.
> >
> >
> >
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