[Vision2020] The Qur'an and the Bible

[Sue Hovey]

Pat,  I don't know where you got that information, but according to my bible professors at Baylor University in the 1950s,and those folks who weren't long on religious tolerance, Mohammad traced his lineage back to Abraham and his worship of the same God the Jews worshipped before him. This is not some new phenomenon, it was in the textbooks I used in college classes a long time ago.  

Sue   
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Pat Kraut 
  To: vision2020 
  Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 7:18 PM
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The Qur'an and the Bible


  Muslims claim now in 2007 that they have the same god as the Jews or Christians But they did not start out that way. It is a new claim to make themselves more acceptable in current time and to add confusion to the subject. Few Christian denominations agree with the idea however so they can claim it but that does not make it true. 


    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Ellen Roskovich 
    To: nielsen at uidaho.edu ; Vision2020 at moscow.com 
    Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 8:45 PM
    Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The Qur'an and the Bible


    Actually, I think it was back in October of last year, I remember Doug Wilson telling everyone at the Sub that Christians and Muslims DO NOT worship the "same" God.

    It was news to me.  Every Muslim I have ever known has always said the same thing on the subject. . . "we worship the same God, the God of Abraham."   But, hey, according to Doug wilson, Jews have missed the boat as well.

    That was an interesting evening.

    Ellen Roskovich




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      From:  Ralph Nielsen <nielsen at uidaho.edu>
      To:  Vision 2020 <Vision2020 at moscow.com>
      Subject:  [Vision2020] The Qur'an and the Bible
      Date:  Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:33:46 -0800
      >Yes, Doug (Farris or Wilson), the Qur'an is very similar to the
      >Bible. Don't Christians and Muslims say they both worship the same God?
      >
      >"Blessed be the LORD my rock, who trains my hands for war, and my
      >fingers for battle" (Psalm 144:1).
      >
      >"Thus says the LORD: I am coming against you, and will draw my sword
      >out of its sheath, and will cut off from you both righteous and
      >wicked" (Ezekiel 21:3b).
      >
      >"And the LORD changed his mind about the disaster that he planned to
      >bring on his people" (Exodus 32:14).
      >
      >"I, I am the LORD, and besides me there is no savior" (Isaiah 43:11).
      >
      >And so on...
      >
      >Ralph
      >
      >Heirdoug wrote:
      >
      >I just love this line "the enemy is the violence they exalt." Like
      >their sharia law and the last thing that was said in the Koran was not
      >the important point... "death to the infidel"!
      >
      >   From one of Doug Wilson's sermons: "The Koran is not organized
      >chronologically, but rather the same way the letters of Paul are
      >organized in the New Testament--by length. This leads many people to
      >think that "peace" verses in the Koran and "war" verses are all jumbled
      >together, to be sorted out as the occasion demands. But the peace
      >verses were from the first Meccan period, and they were abrogated by
      >the jihad verses that began in Medina. "If we abrogate a verse or cause
      >it to be forgotten, We will replace it with a better one or one
      >similar" (Surah 2:106)."
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