[Vision2020] The Qur'an and the Bible

[david sarff]

Hi Pat,
I think that the Jewish, Christian and Muslim faiths are related through the 
family of Abraham. So its all out of the same conceptual god head.
Dave


>
>Muslims claim now in 2007 that they have the same god as the Jews or 
>Christians But they did not start out that way. It is a new claim to make 
>themselves more acceptable in current time and to add confusion to the 
>subject. Few Christian denominations agree with the idea however so they 
>can claim it but that does not make it true.
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Ellen Roskovich
>   To: nielsen at uidaho.edu ; Vision2020 at moscow.com
>   Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 8:45 PM
>   Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The Qur'an and the Bible
>
>
>   Actually, I think it was back in October of last year, I remember Doug 
>Wilson telling everyone at the Sub that Christians and Muslims DO NOT 
>worship the "same" God.
>
>   It was news to me.  Every Muslim I have ever known has always said the 
>same thing on the subject. . . "we worship the same God, the God of 
>Abraham."   But, hey, according to Doug wilson, Jews have missed the boat 
>as well.
>
>   That was an interesting evening.
>
>   Ellen Roskovich
>
>
>
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>     From:  Ralph Nielsen <nielsen at uidaho.edu>
>     To:  Vision 2020 <Vision2020 at moscow.com>
>     Subject:  [Vision2020] The Qur'an and the Bible
>     Date:  Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:33:46 -0800
>     >Yes, Doug (Farris or Wilson), the Qur'an is very similar to the
>     >Bible. Don't Christians and Muslims say they both worship the same 
>God?
>     >
>     >"Blessed be the LORD my rock, who trains my hands for war, and my
>     >fingers for battle" (Psalm 144:1).
>     >
>     >"Thus says the LORD: I am coming against you, and will draw my sword
>     >out of its sheath, and will cut off from you both righteous and
>     >wicked" (Ezekiel 21:3b).
>     >
>     >"And the LORD changed his mind about the disaster that he planned to
>     >bring on his people" (Exodus 32:14).
>     >
>     >"I, I am the LORD, and besides me there is no savior" (Isaiah 43:11).
>     >
>     >And so on...
>     >
>     >Ralph
>     >
>     >Heirdoug wrote:
>     >
>     >I just love this line "the enemy is the violence they exalt." Like
>     >their sharia law and the last thing that was said in the Koran was 
>not
>     >the important point... "death to the infidel"!
>     >
>     >   From one of Doug Wilson's sermons: "The Koran is not organized
>     >chronologically, but rather the same way the letters of Paul are
>     >organized in the New Testament--by length. This leads many people to
>     >think that "peace" verses in the Koran and "war" verses are all 
>jumbled
>     >together, to be sorted out as the occasion demands. But the peace
>     >verses were from the first Meccan period, and they were abrogated by
>     >the jihad verses that began in Medina. "If we abrogate a verse or 
>cause
>     >it to be forgotten, We will replace it with a better one or one
>     >similar" (Surah 2:106)."
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