[Vision2020] Blight-Mind Show-n-Tell

g. crabtree jampot at roadrunner.com
Mon Dec 31 14:49:50 PST 2007


If I learned anything well it was due to the diligence and patience of Mothers and Sisters Incarnation, Ursula, Damien, David, Margaret, Finbar and other Ursuline's whose names escape me. Lord rest their souls, they taught me that protestants were to be generally avoided to the greatest extent practical. I don't remember their mentioning Doug specifically but I doubt he was granted special dispensation.

The prayer for the intolerestas you cite doesn't sound particularly imprecatory to me. Maybe you and your like minded comrades should get together and forge a consistent rant. Everyone knows that it's much more effective if you all bleat off of the same page of the same choir book.

Now we're done.
g

softly, as though from a great distance.....We're poor little lambs who have lost our way, baa, baa, baaa!...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: J Ford 
  To: vision2020 at moscow.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 1:09 PM
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Blight-Mind Show-n-Tell


  Nope....no one can nor will ever "apologize" for me.  This is more of an example of how Doug teaches - "They're wrong and should know it, but since they don't and we do know it, we'll be sorry on their behalf."  This is given from the pulpit almost every Sunday...in the form of "prayer" for the intolerestas and other "wanders from the truth".  

  You learn well, grasshopper.

  We're done with this.

  J :]




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    From: jampot at roadrunner.com
    To: privatejf32 at hotmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
    Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 12:58:45 -0800
    Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Blight-Mind Show-n-Tell


    Since it sounds as though you are fishing, and to show that I am not completely without human compassion, here goes. I am truly, deeply, and abjectly sorry that you were wrong. I will do everything in my power to see to it that your being wrong never happens again. My sorrow for your error is all encompassing and my desire that you learn a valuable lesson from the unfortunate faux pas is total. It is my deepest and most sincere wish that you make no mistakes in the upcoming new year and should you fail to meet this modest goal, I apologize for your dismal failure.

    Does that help?

    g
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: J Ford 
      To: vision2020 at moscow.com 
      Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 11:12 AM
      Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Blight-Mind Show-n-Tell


      Great!  'Cause none will be given on this one.  Well, you might give one...eventually.  

      J :]




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        From: jampot at roadrunner.com
        To: privatejf32 at hotmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
        Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 07:59:00 -0800
        Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Blight-Mind Show-n-Tell


        Aah, you have reverted back to your normally confused state. I think that comparing Wilson to Jones is just as lame as your comparison to Koresh. A weak argument, inflated to grotesque proportions, is still a weak argument. It was the intellectual whirlwind that is hanson, your kindred, who initially brought Jones into this thread. Noting the similarity between your Koresh analogy and the dim Jones comparison might well have tipped you to the fact that I was not going to be anywhere in the mix. Don't worry, no apology required.

        g
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: J Ford 
          To: vision2020 at moscow.com 
          Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 7:01 AM
          Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Blight-Mind Show-n-Tell


          How is that any different than you comparing him to someone like Jones?!  You can do it but others can't?  What's up with that?  

          Oh yeah - I forgot.....you're into being a kirker without being a kirker....

          J :]




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            From: jampot at roadrunner.com
            To: privatejf32 at hotmail.com; chasuk at gmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
            Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 06:53:46 -0800
            Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Blight-Mind Show-n-Tell


            So now the comparison is David Koresh and Doug Wilson? You really don't do your argument any good with such hyperbolic silliness.

            g
              ----- Original Message ----- 
              From: J Ford 
              To: Chasuk ; vision2020 at moscow.com 
              Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 8:50 PM
              Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Blight-Mind Show-n-Tell


              In Waco, the ratio's were vastly different....the outcome, essentially the same.

              In Moscow - time is marching towards an end that everyone standing on the sidelines will say "Wow....didn't see that one coming."  Which is precisely why it WILL happen!

              J :]


              > Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 17:42:09 -0800
              > From: chasuk at gmail.com
              > To: thansen at moscow.com
              > CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
              > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Blight-Mind Show-n-Tell
              > 
              > On Dec 30, 2007 2:02 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
              > 
              > > As I have stated before, the only difference between Jim Jones of the
              > > Peoples Temple and Doug Wilson of Christ Church is the fruit juice.
              > 
              > Overwhelmingly, the composition of the Jonestown victims was poor
              > blacks and Hispanics. Of the approximately 913 who died, nearly 300
              > were children, and at least 162 were senior citizens. More than 400
              > of their unidentified corpses lie in a mass grave in Oakland, CA.
              > 
              > Does that sound like the Kirker demographic at all?
              > 
              > Chas
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