[Vision2020] Gnostic Accountability
g. crabtree
jampot at roadrunner.com
Sat Dec 29 20:28:01 PST 2007
Does someone have to "do something" for me to speak up when I think they are being unfairly maligned? You continue to blather on about "proof of what he HAS done to others and continues to do to this town" but I have yet to see anything that even comes close to proof. Just a very small group of naysayer's endlessly exercising their gums and their typing fingers. Do you imagine that if you were to "do something" for me I would come around to your point of view? I am unquestionably and proudly mercenary in certain things but this is not one of them.
g
----- Original Message -----
From: J Ford
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 7:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Gnostic Accountability
So, you care to respond to the other part of the question? Why the staunch support for someone that has done NOTHING for you? Especially given the proof of what he HAS done to others and continues to do to this town? I mean, seriously - Why?
J :]
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From: jampot at roadrunner.com
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Gnostic Accountability
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 19:18:17 -0800
For a refreshing change of pace you finally got one right. Doug Wilson has done nothing for me, personally or otherwise. (for the record, the response to Ms. Ford's previous question of "what has he ever done for you that you feel this total need to support him no matter what?" was "I'm hoping they will bake me a cake.) This was a joke. Rumor has it the man can't prepare tepid water on a hot summer day. I'm also not that big a fan of cake.
g
----- Original Message -----
From: J Ford
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 6:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Gnostic Accountability
?
Talk about your change of subject.....so, let's try this again - WHAT HAS WILSON (that would be DOUG WILSON) EVER DONE FOR YOU PERSONALLY THAT YOU FEEL SUCH AN ALL-FIRED NEED TO SUPPORT HIM, NO MATTER WHAT THE CHARGES/PROOF THAT HE IS A CROOK, SLIMY, OUT-TO-BETTER-HIMSELF-AT-ANY-COST, KINDA GUY?
Just taking what you said below, it seems like NOTHING would be the answer as you are still "hoping" that something illogical is going to happen.
Good luck with that.
J :]
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From: jampot at roadrunner.com
To: privatejf32 at hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Gnostic Accountability
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 17:39:37 -0800
I'm hoping they ************ (out of respect for the fact that this came to me personally and not to the V, I am deleting your full answer and allowing only the pertinent parts.)
g
----- Original Message -----
From: J Ford
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Gnostic Accountability
1. Remember the Inquisition? or the "witch trials"? How about Waco? Jonestown? The Space people (sorry, don't remember their name.) Long list.....
2. Try talking to the people that Wilson does not approve of and/or that have left the church and are planning or have left town?
3. No one is saying that Wilson has "Killed" anyone - just their opportunity to live life as they choose in a town they choose when they choose.
I really wish you'd stop being blinded by this guy - for god's sake, what has he ever done for you that you feel this total need to support him no matter what?
J :]
> From: jampot at roadrunner.com
> To: nickgier at adelphia.net; vision2020 at moscow.com
> Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 18:51:32 -0800
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Gnostic Accountability
>
> ...religious fundamentalists--Christian, Muslim,
> Buddhist--are one of the greatest dangers that the human race faces...
>
> Doug Wilson...is neck deep in the type of
> doctrines that drive religious fanaticism...
>
> Wilson is largely responsible for the split we now experience in our
> community...
>
> A few questions if I may:
>
> 1. Of all the deaths caused by religous fundamentalists in the, how many
> were caused by Christians? How many of the victims were Christian? Please
> try and contain your answer to the last two centurys, please.
>
> 2.How many of those unfortunate occourances were/are attributable to Wilson?
>
> 3.What is it you suggest should be done to curb the murderous rampage that
> is causing this horrifying rift in the community, aside from spending an
> excrusiating amount of time being tortured at www.class.uidaho.edu/ngier?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <nickgier at adelphia.net>
> To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 1:16 PM
> Subject: [Vision2020] Gnostic Accountability
>
>
> > Hi Paul,
> >
> > You've expressed your views on this topic very ably before and I respect
> > you for
> > your positions. I continue to research and post on this topic for a
> > number of
> > reasons:
> >
> > 1. I am a scholar and I publish in the area of religious studies, and
> > scholars
> > all over the world are interested in this particular topic. That is why I
> > was
> > asked to contribute to Talk-to-Action, whose frontpage features the topic
> > religious scholars in the country.
> >
> > 2. I just happen to believe that religious fundamentalists--Christian,
> > Muslim,
> > Buddhist--are one of the greatest dangers that the human race faces, and I
> > will
> > do everything in my power to mitigate the effect of their actions and
> > their
> > writings.
> >
> > 3. Doug Wilson is a former student of mine; he is neck deep in the type
> > of
> > doctrines that drive religious fanaticism; and I feel some responsibility
> > for
> > his actions. Many years ago he was a honest man, but he is no longer, and
> > I
> > think that is a great tragedy for our community.
> >
> > 4. Wilson is largely responsible for the split we now experience in our
> > community, so the topic is eminently suitable for the Vision. No other
> > church or religious leader has ever done this in the history of our fair
> > city.
> >
> > Nick
> >
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