[Vision2020] Gnostic Accountability

J Ford privatejf32 at hotmail.com
Sat Dec 29 19:44:54 PST 2007


So, you care to respond to the other part of the question?  Why the staunch support for someone that has done NOTHING for you?  Especially given the proof of what he HAS done to others and continues to do to this town?  I mean, seriously - Why?


J  :]


From: jampot at roadrunner.com
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Gnostic Accountability
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 19:18:17 -0800










For a refreshing change of pace you finally got one right. 
Doug Wilson has done nothing for me, personally or otherwise. (for the record, 
the response to Ms. Ford's previous question of "what has he ever done for you 
that you feel this total need to support him no matter what?" was "I'm hoping 
they will bake me a cake.) This was a joke. Rumor has it the man can't prepare 
tepid water on a hot summer day. I'm also not that big a fan of 
cake.
 
g



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: 
  J 
  Ford 
  To: vision2020 at moscow.com 
  Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 6:47 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Gnostic 
  Accountability
  
?

Talk about your change of subject.....so, let's try 
  this again - WHAT HAS WILSON 
  (that would be DOUG WILSON) EVER DONE FOR YOU PERSONALLY THAT YOU FEEL SUCH AN ALL-FIRED NEED TO 
  SUPPORT HIM, NO MATTER WHAT THE CHARGES/PROOF THAT HE IS A CROOK, SLIMY, 
  OUT-TO-BETTER-HIMSELF-AT-ANY-COST, KINDA GUY?

Just taking what you said 
  below, it seems like NOTHING would be the answer as you are still "hoping" 
  that something illogical is going to happen.

Good luck with 
  that.

J :]



  
    
    From: jampot at roadrunner.com
To: privatejf32 at hotmail.com
Subject: Re: 
    [Vision2020] Gnostic Accountability
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 17:39:37 
    -0800


    
    

    I'm hoping they ************ (out of respect for the 
    fact that this came to me personally and not to the V, I am deleting your 
    full answer and allowing only the pertinent parts.)
     
    g
    
      ----- 
      Original Message ----- 
      From: 
      J 
      Ford 
      To: 
      vision2020 at moscow.com 
      Sent: 
      Friday, December 28, 2007 8:47 PM
      Subject: 
      Re: [Vision2020] Gnostic Accountability
      
1.  Remember the Inquisition? or the "witch 
      trials"?  How about Waco?  Jonestown? The Space people (sorry, 
      don't remember their name.)  Long list.....
2.  Try talking 
      to the people that Wilson does not approve of and/or that have left the 
      church and are planning or have left town?
3.  No one is saying 
      that Wilson has "Killed" anyone - just their opportunity to live life as 
      they choose in a town they choose when they choose.

I really wish 
      you'd stop being blinded by this guy - for god's sake, what has he ever 
      done for you that you feel this total need to support him no matter 
      what?

J :]


> From: jampot at roadrunner.com
> To: 
      nickgier at adelphia.net; vision2020 at moscow.com
> Date: Fri, 28 Dec 
      2007 18:51:32 -0800
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Gnostic 
      Accountability
> 
> ...religious fundamentalists--Christian, 
      Muslim,
> Buddhist--are one of the greatest dangers that the human 
      race faces...
> 
> Doug Wilson...is neck deep in the type 
      of
> doctrines that drive religious fanaticism...
> 
> 
      Wilson is largely responsible for the split we now experience in our 
      
> community...
> 
> A few questions if I may:
> 
      
> 1. Of all the deaths caused by religous fundamentalists in the, 
      how many 
> were caused by Christians? How many of the victims were 
      Christian? Please 
> try and contain your answer to the last two 
      centurys, please.
> 
> 2.How many of those unfortunate 
      occourances were/are attributable to Wilson?
> 
> 3.What is it 
      you suggest should be done to curb the murderous rampage that 
> is 
      causing this horrifying rift in the community, aside from spending an 
      
> excrusiating amount of time being tortured at 
      www.class.uidaho.edu/ngier?
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
      From: <nickgier at adelphia.net>
> To: 
      <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 1:16 
      PM
> Subject: [Vision2020] Gnostic Accountability
> 
> 
      
> > Hi Paul,
> >
> > You've expressed your 
      views on this topic very ably before and I respect 
> > you 
      for
> > your positions. I continue to research and post on this 
      topic for a 
> > number of
> > reasons:
> 
      >
> > 1. I am a scholar and I publish in the area of religious 
      studies, and 
> > scholars
> > all over the world are 
      interested in this particular topic. That is why I 
> > 
      was
> > asked to contribute to Talk-to-Action, whose frontpage 
      features the topic
> > religious scholars in the country.
> 
      >
> > 2. I just happen to believe that religious 
      fundamentalists--Christian, 
> > Muslim,
> > 
      Buddhist--are one of the greatest dangers that the human race faces, and I 
      
> > will
> > do everything in my power to mitigate the 
      effect of their actions and 
> > their
> > 
      writings.
> >
> > 3. Doug Wilson is a former student of 
      mine; he is neck deep in the type 
> > of
> > doctrines 
      that drive religious fanaticism; and I feel some responsibility 
> 
      > for
> > his actions. Many years ago he was a honest man, but 
      he is no longer, and 
> > I
> > think that is a great 
      tragedy for our community.
> >
> > 4. Wilson is largely 
      responsible for the split we now experience in our 
> > 
      community, so the topic is eminently suitable for the Vision. No other 
      
> > church or religious leader has ever done this in the history 
      of our fair 
> > city.
> >
> > Nick
> 
      >
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