[Vision2020] NSA's accrediting agency is not recognized in Texas

Fri Dec 21 17:39:04 PST 2007

So if some scientists have made up data, assuming that is the case, does it follow that the world was created in six 24-hour days?  Does that invalidate the results obtained by scientists not making up data?

Sunil

> From: jampot at roadrunner.com
> To: nickgier at adelphia.net; vision2020 at moscow.com
> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 16:10:10 -0800
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] NSA's accrediting agency is not recognized in Texas
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> "As if good scientists made up their own data in the laboratory!"
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> Please see:
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> http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn8515
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> www.wired.com/medtech/health/news/2005/07/68153
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> www.americanthinker.com/2006/08/fake_but_accurate_science.html
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> http://www.heartland.org/Article.cfm?artId=17978
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> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A19814-2005Feb12.html
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> http://sciencepoliticsclimatechange.blogspot.com/2006/08/role-of-consensus-in-science.html
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> http://chronicle.com/subscribe/login?url=http%3A%2F%2Fchronicle.com%2Fdaily%2F2007%2F01%2F2007011002n.htm
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> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A45611-2005Mar17.html
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> http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2005/10/28/mit_professor_is_fired_over_fabricated_data/
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> http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2005/Apr-02-Sat-2005/news/26204008.html
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> Why the very notion that data might be faked  by Scientists must be 
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <nickgier at adelphia.net>
> To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 3:22 PM
> Subject: [Vision2020] NSA's accrediting agency is not recognized in Texas
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> > Greetings:
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> > Ralph Nielsen sent me this and he may want to post it here, but if he does 
> > not, here is some interesting news.
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> > First, the Transnational Association for Christian Colleges and Schools 
> > (TRACS), New St. Andrews College's accrediting agency, was founded by 
> > creationist Henry Morris; and second, TRACS is not recognized by Texas' 
> > higher education authorities.  It is good to see that Texas has higher 
> > academic standards than Idaho.
> >
> > Here is my favorite quotation from Henry Morris: "It is better to believe 
> > in the revealed World of God than any science or philosophy devised by 
> > man."  As if good scientists made up their own data in the laboratory!
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> > ICR SEEKS TO GRANT DEGREES IN TEXAS
> >
> > Morris explained, "The possibility of moving to Dallas surfaced when my 
> > brother, Dr. Henry Morris III, discerned that a central location would be 
> > beneficial for ICR, with several possibilities for student services at 
> > nearby affiliated colleges.  The many good
> > churches and large numbers of ICR supporters living in North Texas made it 
> > a
> > natural fit for the ministry.  When my father [Henry Morris] was still 
> > alive he
> > approved the move to Dallas, especially as a way to strengthen the 
> > graduate school.  In 2006, ICR opened a distance education effort in 
> > Dallas,  as well as the hub of ICR's internet ministries. ... As 
> > additional operational functions were assigned to the new Dallas office, 
> > the Board concluded that it was in ICR's best interests to move the entire 
> > ministry."
> >
> > The ICR's graduate school was previously accredited by the Transnational
> > Association of Christian Colleges and Schools (TRACS), a group founded by 
> > Henry Morris; Henry Morris III presently serves on its commission.   Texas 
> > does not recognize accreditation by TRACS, forcing the ICR to seek 
> > temporary state certification while it applies for accreditation from the 
> > Southern Association of Colleges and Schools (SACS).  As a first step 
> > toward certification, a committee of Texas educators visited the ICR's 
> > facilities in Dallas to evaluate whether the ICR meets the legal 
> > requirements for state certification.  The report described the
> > educational program as "plausible," adding, "The proposed degree would be
> > generally comparable to an initial master's degree in science education 
> > from
> > one of the smaller, regional universities in the state."
> >
> > NCSE's Eugenie C. Scott disagreed, telling the Dallas Morning News,
> > "It sounds like the committee may have just taken at face value what
> > the ICR claims ... There's a huge gulf between what the ICR is doing and 
> > what
> > they're doing at legitimate institutions like ... [the University
> > of Texas] or Baylor."  (The committee members were a librarian, an 
> > educational
> > administrator, and a mathematician; none was professionally trained in
> > biology, geology, or physics.)  Inside Higher Ed reported (December
> > 17, 2007), "Some science groups are aghast by the idea that Texas would
> > authorize master's degrees in science education that are based on complete
> > opposition to evolution and literal acceptance of the Bible.  And these
> > groups are particularly concerned because the students in these programs
> > would be people who are or want to be school teachers."
> >
> > Although Patricia Nason, chair of the ICR's science education
> > department, told the Dallas Morning News, "Our students are given both 
> > sides.
> > They need to know both sides, and they can draw their own conclusion,"
> > the ICR's statement of faith includes the tenet, "All things in the 
> > universe
> > were created and made by God in the six literal days of the creation week
> > described in Genesis 1:1-2:3, and confirmed in Exodus 20:8-11.  The 
> > creation record is factual, historical and perspicuous; thus all theories 
> > of origins or development which involve evolution in any form are false." 
> > Similarly, applicants to the ICR's graduate school are explicitly told 
> > that their answers to the essay questions on the application help to 
> > determine "your dedication to the Lord, the Word, and teaching
> > creation science."
> >
> > . . .
> >
> > Nick Gier
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