[Vision2020] Mitchell report on steroid use in MLB - Scandalous!

Tom Hansen thansen at moscow.com
Fri Dec 14 06:07:45 PST 2007

I beg to differ with you, Mr. Dredge.


The greatest home run hitter for all time was, is, and will always be
"Hammerin' Hank" Aaron.  He was not a womanizer.  He never used steroids and
never abused alcohol.  He is what baseball should be about, setting an
example for our children.  Hank Aaron did just that with grace, dignity, and
the respect of every fan of the game and every player that ever wore a
jersey from Boston to San Diego and Miami to Seattle.


You see, Mr. Dredge, baseball is more than scoring runs.  It is the heart
and attitude of the people.


As James Earl Jones said in his role as the famous 60's writer Terrance Mann
in the movie "Field of Dreams": "The one constant through all the years,
Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers.
It's been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt, and erased again. But baseball
has marked the time. This field, this game, is a part of our past, Ray. It
reminds us of all that once was good, and that could be again."




Seeya round town, Moscow.

Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho

"We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. The college
students are not very active in local elections (thank goodness!)."

- Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007) 


From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
On Behalf Of Scott Dredge
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 10:52 PM
To: viz
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Mitchell report on steroid use in MLB -


Hot dogs, beer, and women.  It was heaven on earth for the Babe / the
Bambino / the Sultan of Swat / the King of Swing / the Colossus of Clout /
the Prince of Power / the greatest home run hitter the history of the world
/ the best there was then and the best there ever will be.


----- Original Message ----
From: Carl Westberg <carlwestberg846 at hotmail.com>
To: Bruce and Jean Livingston <jeanlivingston at turbonet.com>; Scott Dredge
<sdredge at yahoo.com>; viz <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 5:37:03 PM
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Mitchell report on steroid use in MLB -

And to think that Babe Ruth did it all with hot dogs and beer.   Carl
Westberg Jr.

From: jeanlivingston at turbonet.com
To: sdredge at yahoo.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:54:33 -0800
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Mitchell report on steroid use in MLB -

Hey, they totally busted Roger Clemens.  


Oh yeah, that was AFTER he left the Red Sox and resurrected his career on
steroids with the Yankees.  


To get a feel for what steroids could do for you, you don't just need to
look at Barry Bonds increasing hat size and home run numbers, look at
Clemens.  He won 192 games for the Red Sox from 1984-1996, while losing 111.
But his last four years with the Red Sox as his body gave out, 1993-96, he
won 11, 9, 10 and 10, while losing 14, 7, 5 and 13.  He was basically a .500
pitcher for those four years at 40-39.  He goes to Toronto and is
immediately 21-7, and then with the Yanks is 20-6, 14-10, 13-8, 20-3, 13-6,
17-9, followed by 18-4 in Houston in 2004, 13-8, and 7-6, before returning
to the Yanks and going 7-6 this year.  


Based on the reports of his extensive "juicing" with the Yankees and what he
did his last four years w/ the Red Sox before discovering the juice, it
would appear to me that the last decade of his statistics are subject to
extreme discounting by the Hall of Fame voters.




----- Original Message ----- 

From: "Scott Dredge" < <mailto:sdredge at yahoo.com> sdredge at yahoo.com>

To: "viz" < <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com> vision2020 at moscow.com>

Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 3:52 PM

Subject: [Vision2020] Mitchell report on steroid use in MLB - Scandalous!


> The Mitchell report, which reported widespread used of steroids in Major
League Baseball, was released today and it is scandalous.  George Mitchell
is a director for the Boston Red Sox and not one marquee player from the Sox
was listed in the report and yet there are many big name Yankee players
listed.  There should be an investigation into this discrepancy.
> -Scott
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