[Vision2020] Challenge to Crabtree

[Betsy Dickow]

Please knock it off.

Yours,

Betsy Dickow


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>
To: "Joe Campbell" <joekc at adelphia.net>
Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 4:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Challenge to Crabtree


> I'm guessing that all prospective students of WSU's world renowned
> philosophy program drop in on the V to get a feel for my opinion with 
> regard
> to their future instructors. What ever could I have been thinking. If the
> argument you presented in the thread I was responding to was an example of
> what you think of as sound logic, I stand by my remark.
>
> Now, about my job. I can't imagine what relevant thing you might have to 
> say
> concerning it as I have never worked for you. I am guessing that your
> knowledge of the security industry is likely to be less than nil, making
> your opinion as to my competence as valuable as a free coupon to the
> Campbell logic, dog, and pony show. But hey, prove me wrong
>
> It's pretty easy to make the grandly magnanimous statement "I could have
> (fill in the blank) but because of my near God like forbearance, I
> refrained. What's hard is believing it. Especially for someone with your
> limited level of self control.
>
> g
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Joe Campbell" <joekc at adelphia.net>
> To: "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>
> Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 4:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Challenge to Crabtree
>
>
>> Did you really say "I urge the youth at WSU to look into disciplines that
>> have
>> less potential for damaging their thought process"? Don't you think that
>> thoughtless statements like this about my JOB and livelihood are
>> irresponsible in this venue? Isn't this going too far?
>>
>> I remember when I had a similar opportunity to make comments that might
>> impact your way of making a living and I passed.
>>
>> --
>> Joe Campbell
>>
>> ---- "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com> wrote:
>>
>> =============
>> Actually I agree with Mr. Schwaller. I too, would be surprised if people
>> in that arena didn't use their power to influence those "beneath" them in
>> a negative way. I think that it's a bad thing and as near as I can tell
>> Mr. Schwaller is expressing  no opinion either way, merely making a
>> statement. I see no indication that he thinks it's swell because it's a
>> common practice.
>>
>> Is this an example of the sort of logic you are offering to inflict on me
>> in a class setting? If so, not only do I decline your generous offer but 
>> I
>> urge the youth at WSU to look into disciplines that have less potential
>> for damaging their thought process.
>>
>> g
>>
>>
>>
>> To: "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>
>> Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 8:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Challenge to Crabtree
>>
>>
>>> Crabtree writes: "Save the vote in this goofy little for someone who
>>> cares. What's right isn't decided by a show of hands."
>>>
>>> So you agree that "Schwaller" was wrong in making the following point:
>>>
>>> "I'd be very surprised if anyone in the political arena has not, at some
>>> point in
>>> time, used their position to to affect the outcome of an event, or to
>>> intimidate,
>>> bully, or in some way influence someone of  a "lesser" position."
>>>
>>> You think he was being as much of an idiot as I was being, right?
>>>
>>> That's my point! Thank you for helping me make it!
>>>
>>> Or is it that appeal to popularity is a better fallacy than two wrongs
>>> make a right?
>>>
>>> All the best, Mr. Joe
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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