[Vision2020] Challenge to Crabtree

[g. crabtree]

I'm guessing that all prospective students of WSU's world renowned 
philosophy program drop in on the V to get a feel for my opinion with regard 
to their future instructors. What ever could I have been thinking. If the 
argument you presented in the thread I was responding to was an example of 
what you think of as sound logic, I stand by my remark.

Now, about my job. I can't imagine what relevant thing you might have to say 
concerning it as I have never worked for you. I am guessing that your 
knowledge of the security industry is likely to be less than nil, making 
your opinion as to my competence as valuable as a free coupon to the 
Campbell logic, dog, and pony show. But hey, prove me wrong

It's pretty easy to make the grandly magnanimous statement "I could have 
(fill in the blank) but because of my near God like forbearance, I 
refrained. What's hard is believing it. Especially for someone with your 
limited level of self control.

g
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Campbell" <joekc at adelphia.net>
To: "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>
Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Challenge to Crabtree


> Did you really say "I urge the youth at WSU to look into disciplines that 
> have
> less potential for damaging their thought process"? Don't you think that
> thoughtless statements like this about my JOB and livelihood are
> irresponsible in this venue? Isn't this going too far?
>
> I remember when I had a similar opportunity to make comments that might
> impact your way of making a living and I passed.
>
> --
> Joe Campbell
>
> ---- "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com> wrote:
>
> =============
> Actually I agree with Mr. Schwaller. I too, would be surprised if people 
> in that arena didn't use their power to influence those "beneath" them in 
> a negative way. I think that it's a bad thing and as near as I can tell 
> Mr. Schwaller is expressing  no opinion either way, merely making a 
> statement. I see no indication that he thinks it's swell because it's a 
> common practice.
>
> Is this an example of the sort of logic you are offering to inflict on me 
> in a class setting? If so, not only do I decline your generous offer but I 
> urge the youth at WSU to look into disciplines that have less potential 
> for damaging their thought process.
>
> g
>
>
>
> To: "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>
> Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 8:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Challenge to Crabtree
>
>
>> Crabtree writes: "Save the vote in this goofy little for someone who 
>> cares. What's right isn't decided by a show of hands."
>>
>> So you agree that "Schwaller" was wrong in making the following point:
>>
>> "I'd be very surprised if anyone in the political arena has not, at some 
>> point in
>> time, used their position to to affect the outcome of an event, or to 
>> intimidate,
>> bully, or in some way influence someone of  a "lesser" position."
>>
>> You think he was being as much of an idiot as I was being, right?
>>
>> That's my point! Thank you for helping me make it!
>>
>> Or is it that appeal to popularity is a better fallacy than two wrongs 
>> make a right?
>>
>> All the best, Mr. Joe
>>
>>
>