[Vision2020] Craig's official statement
Sue Hovey
suehovey at moscow.com
Wed Aug 29 23:27:56 PDT 2007
Roger, I, too, hope Craig finishes out his term. And from the looks of
events today, it isn't those of us who "made excuses for Clinton," who are
out to do Craig in. The line of Republican policy makers waiting to ding
him stretches from the Beltway to Boise and back again.
Sue
----- Original Message -----
From: "lfalen" <lfalen at turbonet.com>
To: "Joe Campbell" <joekc at adelphia.net>
Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>; "Sue Hovey" <suehovey at moscow.com>; "Paul
Rumelhart" <godshatter at yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Craig's official statement
> Yesterday that was the only information I had. Now we have the complete
> report and what seems to be a history of questionable behavior. I think
> that under any circumstances Craig is guilty of extremely poor judgement.
> If the report is accurate then he did exhibit very strange behavior,
> although I don't see where he actually did anything sexual. To plead
> guilty to something you did not do is dumb. I think it is very
> inconsistent for those who make excuses for Clinton are out to nail Craig.
> I would hope that Craig finishes out his term of office and does not run
> for reelection.
> Roger
>
> -----Original message-----
> From: Joe Campbell joekc at adelphia.net
> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 14:37:49 -0700
> To: lfalen lfalen at turbonet.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Craig's official statement
>
>> Roger,
>>
>> That Craig merely touched someone else's foot seems to go against the
>> information in the police report that Tom posted, as well as information
>> on the
>> CNN website found here:
>>
>> http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/08/28/craig.arrest/index.html
>>
>> Tell me, why would they charge Craig for "lewd conduct" if all he did was
>> touch another man's foot with his own foot? Why would Craig -- someone
>> with
>> a law degree -- plead guilty if this is all that happened? It doesn't add
>> up.
>>
>> Notice that on the CNN website it says: "A police officer who arrested
>> him
>> June 11 said Craig peered through a crack in a restroom stall door for
>> two
>> minutes and made gestures suggesting to the officer he wanted to engage
>> in
>> 'lewd conduct.' ... 'Craig would look down at his hands, "fidget" with
>> his
>> fingers, and then look through the crack into my stall again,' Karsnia
>> wrote in
>> documents accompanying the arrest report."
>>
>> Tell me, do you give Michael Vick the benefit of the doubt? Do you say,
>> "Well,
>> he just plead guilty in order to save himself some trouble. That doesn't
>> mean
>> he is guilty of any crime." Or do you take his case for what it is, i.e.,
>> a
>> genuine admission of guilt. And if you treat Vick differently, why?
>>
>> --
>> Joe Campbell
>>
>> ---- lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com> wrote:
>>
>> =============
>> No I have not followed every vote by every Congressman. I think people
>> tend to look at ssues that they are the most interested in. In regard to
>> the charge against Craig- I don't thing that touching someone's foot is
>> anything to get too excited over. However if had had been me and there
>> wasn't any tissue in the stall, I would have simply said "Can you hand me
>> some toilet paper"
>> Roger
>> -----Original message-----
>> From: "Sue Hovey" suehovey at moscow.com
>> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 10:45:17 -0700
>> To: "lfalen" lfalen at turbonet.com, "Paul Rumelhart" godshatter at yahoo.com,
>> "Joe Campbell" joekc at adelphia.net
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Craig's official statement
>>
>> > Folks who don't know where Craig stands on sexuality haven't been
>> > following
>> > his senatorial career.
>> >
>> > Sue Hovey
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "lfalen" <lfalen at turbonet.com>
>> > To: "Paul Rumelhart" <godshatter at yahoo.com>; "Joe Campbell"
>> > <joekc at adelphia.net>
>> > Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 9:55 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Craig's official statement
>> >
>> >
>> > > My sentiments also. I don't know where Craig stands on sexuality.
>> > > Joe.
>> > > maybe you could let us know were the hypocrisy is?
>> > > -----Original message-----
>> > > From: Paul Rumelhart godshatter at yahoo.com
>> > > Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 20:25:26 -0700
>> > > To: Joe Campbell joekc at adelphia.net
>> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Craig's official statement
>> > >
>> > >> Sure, be my guest.
>> > >>
>> > >> You're welcome.
>> > >>
>> > >> Is he actively anti-homosexual or something? Despite the fact that
>> > >> he
>> > >> gave me a nomination to the Air Force Academy in 1984 (which turned
>> > >> me
>> > >> down) I haven't really followed his career that much.
>> > >>
>> > >> I'm just saying that I'd hate to be in that situation and not
>> > >> actually
>> > >> be guilty. Tapping your right foot. Who knew? I might also be
>> > >> tempted
>> > >> to just pay the damn fine and hope nobody notices, too.
>> > >>
>> > >> I do know I plan to keep both feet solidly on the floor for the
>> > >> duration
>> > >> next time I'm in an airport restroom.
>> > >>
>> > >> Paul
>> > >>
>> > >> Joe Campbell wrote:
>> > >> > Paul,
>> > >> >
>> > >> > You're not really that naive, are you? How about hypocrisy? Can we
>> > >> > accuse him of that?
>> > >> >
>> > >> > --
>> > >> > Joe Campbell
>> > >> >
>> > >> > --------------------
>> > >> >
>> > >> > The article I read in the Washington Post said that he had tapped
>> > >> > the
>> > >> > foot of the person in the stall next him and reached under the
>> > >> > partition. Naive to ways of the dance of restroom stall courtship
>> > >> > and
>> > >> > etiquette, I probably would have handed him some toilet paper
>> > >> > blithely
>> > >> > assuming that his dispenser was empty.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I haven't yet read the articles linked to earlier - so it's
>> > >> > possible it
>> > >> > was more than that. But given what the Post said, I can't really
>> > >> > accuse
>> > >> > him of much myself.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Paul
>> > >> >
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