[Vision2020] and speaking of religion in public places

[Sunil Ramalingam]

I don't see where separation of power is a Christian concept.  I don't think 
the Bible addresses such issues as inalienable rights, or freedom of speech 
or the freedom of religion (for all).  If such directives exist and are 
recognized as Christian theology I'm glad to admit being wrong, but after 
years of Sunday School and church, I don't recognize them as Christian 
principles I've been taught or heard.  Of course I grew up Anglican and 
Episcopalian.

I don't think Christianity forms the basis for our Constitution.  I'm 
certainly willing to consider examples from the Bible that prove me wrong, 
if they can be provided.  And I certainly don't see God standing between us 
and those interpreting away the rights recognized in the Constitution.  When 
I think God agrees with me, I certainly hope for that outcome...

Sunil


>From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>To: nickgier at adelphia.net, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>
>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] and speaking of religion in public places
>Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 12:53:29 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Nick Gier and his cronies just don't understand what Sali is saying.
>
>   The principles of our Constitution are etched from the rock of 
>Christianity. You cannot remove the rock without removing its authority. 
>The Constitution is meaningless if it doesn't have Christianity as a bases 
>of its authority, derived only because of Christianity.
>
>   Who says all men are equal? Who says you have unalienable rights? Who 
>says you have the right to freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom 
>from unfair trial?
>
>   Those rights are not granted to men by men, they are granted to men by 
>God, the Christian God. And that is what gives the US Constitution its 
>authority, its greatness, and truthfulness. Otherwise, the Constitution was 
>written, and the rights granted us within, are not real rights, or moral 
>principles of God's justice, but in fact, just something a bunch fat 
>balding rich guys wearing white wigs came up with on a hot sweaty day in 
>July at the turn of the 18th century hiding from the British authorities.
>
>   I believe certain rights are given to us by God, and that many of those 
>rights are engraved into the Constitution. If you don't believe this too, 
>then the only thing giving the Constitution, and your rights are men, men 
>who decide arbitrarily what rights you have and don't have at any time or 
>place. It makes the Constitution a document that is enforceable only by the 
>threat of a gun and the will of the powerful men that yield it.
>
>   Best,
>
>   Donovan
>
>