[Vision2020] Anonymous/Fake Identity Posts

Ted Moffett starbliss at gmail.com
Thu Aug 23 13:17:11 PDT 2007


Warren et. al.

Don't stop.

I also thought that maybe just ignoring posts from those who are anonymous
or faking an identity is the best approach.

Ted Moffett

On 8/22/07, Warren Hayman <whayman at roadrunner.com> wrote:
>
>  Sorry, Ted. I thought the thread was spun from the Schwaller questions.
> I'll stop now.
>
> Warren Hayman
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Ted Moffett <starbliss at gmail.com>
>  *To:* Warren Hayman <whayman at roadrunner.com>
> *Cc:* Vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 21, 2007 9:02 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Baudrillard: The Childishness of Adults
>
>
>
> Warren et. al.
>
> The post you responded to said nothing about anyone posting under any
> identity, fabricated or otherwise... That's a different thread...
>
> Ted Moffett
>
>
> On 8/21/07, Warren Hayman <whayman at roadrunner.com> wrote:
> >
> >  Hello All,
> >
> > Can we simplify all this with a question?
> >
> > If Schwaller does not exist and refuses elaboration of identity, then
> > the poster(s) of these missives practice(s) coyness, dishonesty,
> > disingenuity, and jerkdom.
> >
> >  If Schwaller does exist and refuses elaboration of identity, then he or
> > she practices coyness, dishonesty, disingenuity, and jerkdom.
> >
> > Why in the world bother with either response or concern to all this?
> >
> > Warren Hayman
> >
> > If multiple copies of this occur, blame me and Time-Warner!
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > *From:* Ted Moffett <starbliss at gmail.com>
> > *To:* Vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 21, 2007 2:57 PM
> > *Subject:* [Vision2020] Baudrillard: The Childishness of Adults
> >
> >
> >
> >  All:
> >
> > Pardon my indulgence in posting about a writer/thinker many will find of
> > no interest.  But given that all of my "adult" life I have been astonished
> > by the fact that the behavior of adults in positions of power in the world
> > appears to exhibit some of the most dangerous and destructive examples of
> > "childishness," the following quote from Baudrillard, from "Simulacra and
> > Simulations," hit home.  Again, this strikes me as brilliant
> > socio-psychoanalysis:
> >
> > http://www.egs.edu/faculty/baudrillard/baudrillard-simulacra-and-simulations.html
> >
> >
> > The Disneyland imaginary is neither true nor false: it is a deterrence
> > machine set up in order to rejuvenate in reverse the fiction of the real.
> > Whence the debility, the infantile degeneration of this imaginary. It's
> > meant to be an infantile world, in order to make us believe that the adults
> > are elsewhere, in the "real" world, and to conceal the fact that real
> > childishness is everywhere, particularly among those adults who go there to
> > act the child in order to foster illusions of their real childishness.
> >
> > ------
> >
> > Ted Moffett
> >
> >
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