[Vision2020] Seriously, this time

Tony tonytime at clearwire.net
Sun Apr 15 20:03:39 PDT 2007


Dear Anon, could you be so kind as to specify what I have said on this forum that you regard as "disgusting and un-American?"

While I have no problem with your posting anonymously, I would prefer that you be clear as to what your objections are so that we may discuss them.

Best,  -Tony
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Walter Smith 
  To: vision2020 at moscow.com 
  Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 12:38 PM
  Subject: [Vision2020] Seriously, this time


  While my last post was entirely a jest, this one is not. I am indeed hiding behind a cloak of anonymity, since this forum seems to nothing but destroy those willing to talk, and I have no suicide wish. Take my comments with as big a grain of salt as you feel necessary. 

  I do consider myself a liberal, and while I find the filth spewing forth from "Tony" (aka FingerElbowSpace) and his ilk disgusting and un-American, the recent hate flowing from J Ford (whom I usually agree with) is truly foul. I had never heard of "Javon Butler" before this fracas, as I care nothing for college sports. But the calls from J Ford to deny this man the justice (albeit imperfect) that out system grants is beyond the pale, never have I heard such a disgusting tirade. It is particularly disgusting due to the obvious (to everyone else) racism embodied in her posts, and the clear fact that she actually believes what she is saying, and sees nothing wrong with it. I can't even recall such filth from the arians that used to be around here, and they were the worst of the worst. 

  What Don Imus did was wrong, much of the reaction to what he did is wrong, and much of the reaction to that reaction is wrong. But how does the injustice against him justify denying justice to another?.

  I have no idea if Javon is guilty, I wasn't there. I know none of the people involved, and have no reason to believe one party over the other. If the courts find Javon guilty, I won't argue; if they don't, I won't argue. This is what our justice system is for, to do everything possible to learn the truth. Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? Could anything possibly be more un-American? 

  Unless Javon is a clear and present danger to others (which I cannot imagine him being, with all the attention currently focused on him), what reason could there be for denying him the rights afforded to everyone (non-celebrity, admittedly) else? Is it just because he is black, and has been accused by a white man? What, exactly, is wrong with letting the process take it's course? 

  Sincerely,
  Anon



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