[Vision2020] water development

Donovan Arnold donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
Sat Apr 14 19:25:12 PDT 2007


Tom,
   
  Great point. As along as you extensively filter the Moscow water supply before it touches your skin, you have no problems. Except of course for the inside of your pipes or if you happen to be thirsty and only a public drinking fountain is available.
   
  How do you filter the water that washes your clothes? I find Moscow water ruins my clothes. 
   
  Best,
   
  Donovan

Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
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  Granted.  The water here in Moscow is not of the same quality as the spring water available in the Silver Valley.  This is why I filter all water I use here in Moscow, whether the water is used for cooking, ice water, coffee, etc. etc.  
   
  I personally use both a Brita-filtered reservoir and a Brita-filtered pitcher.  As a result I have no problems with Moscow water.
   
  As such, and as you suggest, the problem is not in the quality of water as much as it is the quantity of water.
   
  Thanks.
   
  Tom Hansen
  Moscow, Idaho
   
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  From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of Mark Solomon
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 6:25 PM
To: Donovan Arnold; Sunil Ramalingam; vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] water development

   
    Donovan,

     

    Maybe you missed the quotation marks around "new water". We can talk about water quality but that is a separate issue from water quantity. All Moscow water meets Safe Drinking Act quality standards. The water derived from the upper aquifer, which now constitutes 30% of the city supply (and supplied 100% of the supply from the city's founding through 1960) is heavily mineralized with iron and zinc. If your water tastes foul however, it is likely not the water itself but either iron bacteria that have colonized your plumbing or chlorine used to treat the water. Different parts of the city have water that has different proportions of upper and deep aquifer waters depending on their proximity to different wells, different water towers/reservoirs and piping connecting it all. Either one is filterable with a low cost/low maintenance filter readily available at most local plumbing shops and installable with little to no tools depending on how accessible your pipes are.

     

    m.

     

    At 6:13 PM -0700 4/14/07, Donovan Arnold wrote:

    Mark,
     
    Conservation doesn't create new water. It simply conserves what we have. Your suggestions do not A) Supply us with more water or B) Solve the problem of having low quality, foul tasting, smelling water that ruins our clothes and plumbing.
     
    The revenue of clay extraction over the course of 25-100 years would most likely cover the costs of building a water line 50 miles. We have a century or two solve this problem, isn't in crisis mode yet. Let industry develop a little first.
     
    Best,
     
    Donovan

Mark Solomon <msolomon at moscow.com> wrote:
  I don't know about Washington, but the Nez Perce Tribe might have
something significant to say as those are waters covered under their
settlement with the state. A more probable but still highly unlikely
source would be the N. Fk of the Palouse above Laird Park. Unlikely
because of the cost of a pipeline, diversion structure, pump station
(to get around/over Moscow Mountain.

Conservation is still the cheapest source of "new water". As I've
discussed here previously, new development could fund conservation
implementation to offset a development's water demand. Simple
balancing of the water checkbook.

m.

At 4:43 PM -0700 4/14/07, Sunil Ramalingam wrote:
>Thanks, Mark.
>
>I also wonder that if money were available for such a project,
>setting aside any environmental concerns, Moscow would be able to
>appropriate Clearwater River water. Wouldn't Washington users
>downstream have superior claims that would make such a project
>difficult?
>
>Sunil
>
>>From: Mark Solomon
>>To: Donovan Arnold , Sunil
>>Ramalingam , vision2020 at moscow.com
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] water development
>>Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 16:01:11 -0700
>>
>>Sunil is referring to the study done by the Army Corps of Engineers
>>sometime way back when that looked at the Palouse, Clearwater and
>>Snake Rivers as possible water sources for Moscow. Even back then
>>(1974 I think) the energy costs of pumping water uphill to Moscow
>>were prohibitive. The only person I know who has an actual copy of
>>the study is Joel Hamilton. There is likely one in the UI library.
>>
>>m.

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