[Vision2020] [Bulk] Re: All kinds? Uh... right.
Paul Rumelhart
godshatter at yahoo.com
Sat Apr 7 22:30:40 PDT 2007
Tony,
That wasn't a personal shot at you. It was a shot at those
fundamentalists that do come out with that sort of crap. Really, I
wasn't trying to one-up anybody. I just thought it was interesting that
both sides can be painted by the brush of "self-congratulatory moral
posturing". I'd never thought that the idea of tolerance could be
looked at in that way. Maybe both sides have more in common than they
think.
Nothing personal.
Paul
Tony wrote:
> Oh c'mon Paul! You know damn good and well that I have never taken
> the position that God hates anyone, homosexual or otherwise. If you
> think the mainstream right believes such nonsense, then invite some
> representatives of the mainstream right to your little (love?) in, and
> listen to what they have to say rather than pigeonholing them as a
> bunch of inbred bigots.
>
> Really, Paul, I had you figured as more fair-minded than that.
>
> -T
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Paul Rumelhart <mailto:godshatter at yahoo.com>
> *To:* vision2020 at moscow.com <mailto:vision2020 at moscow.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 07, 2007 8:36 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] All kinds? Uh... right.
>
> It's interesting that I would use the phrase "self congratulatory
> moral posturing" to describe what fundamentalists are doing when
> they are explaining how God hates gays or whatever. I guess it's
> all in your perspective, and whose set of morals, I guess.
>
> Paul
>
> Tony wrote:
>
>>Tom, here's just a brief note to help your friend Joan in answering her
>>question as to why she is interested in a conference about "finding the
>>center." I believe the answer is that said conference is a gathering of
>>ultra-liberals and boasts NO CONSERVATIVE VOICES. Clearly Joan is enamored
>>with the program because it has absolutely nothing to do with finding the
>>center so much as providing a forum for liberals to engage in their favorite
>>pastime: self congratulatory moral posturing.
>>
>>Ho-hum.
>>
>>-T
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
>>To: "Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 3:31 PM
>>Subject: [Vision2020] It Takes All Kinds to Help Find the Center
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>>From today's (April 6, 2007) Moscow-Pullman Daily News -
>>>
>>>------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>HER VIEW: It takes all kinds to help find the center
>>>
>>>By Joan Opyr
>>>
>>>Why would I be interested in a conference called Finding the Center? I am
>>>a
>>>left-wing Democrat. I am a feminist. I am an activist. I have spent the
>>>whole of my adult life campaigning for causes and concerns that are
>>>anathema
>>>to many on the right-wing side of the political divide. Why would I want
>>>to
>>>seek common ground with conservatives, moderates, and others with whom I
>>>often disagree?
>>>
>>>The short answer is that it takes all kinds to make a world. I believe in
>>>diversity, in multiculturalism, and that includes diversity of opinion.
>>>Being tolerant does not mean lying down and letting others walk all over
>>>you, but it does mean making an effort to live in harmony with everyone,
>>>even if that harmony is only agreeing to disagree. Our local community and
>>>the larger world depend on our willingness to do this simple thing, to
>>>extend the olive branch where we can, and to seek commonality wherever it
>>>exists. This does not mean that we give up our values or stop fighting for
>>>our beliefs, but that we recognize that while difference may be
>>>frightening,
>>>it doesn't need to be destructive.
>>>
>>>Finding the Center is an action-oriented human rights conference that
>>>seeks
>>>to instruct, to inspire, to teach and to challenge. Four speakers will
>>>come
>>>to the University of Idaho April 12-14 to present four different tracks.
>>>All
>>>will focus on how we can serve as positive agents of change within our
>>>communities.
>>>
>>>Randie S. Gottlieb, Ed. D., is the founder of UNITYWORKS LLC and
>>>co-founder
>>>of the Mona Foundation. She will deliver the keynote address and lead a
>>>discussion track focused on education and the empowerment of women.
>>>
>>>Balbir Mathur, the founder of "Trees for Life," which has helped more than
>>>2.5 million people plant more than 30 million trees in developing
>>>countries
>>>since its inception in 1984, will lead a discussion track on social
>>>entrepreneurship.
>>>
>>>The Rev. John L. Selders Jr., is the founding organizing pastor of Amistad
>>>United Church of Christ in Hartford, Conn., the care coordinator of Zezzo
>>>house, an 18-unit housing project, and the lead principal for the Human
>>>Connection Project. He will lead a discussion track on common community.
>>>
>>>Anna Boluda, a journalist, filmmaker and Fulbright scholar who has worked
>>>as
>>>a television reporter, a producer and in public relations, will screen her
>>>award-winning film "Queer Spawn." Boluda will teach a plenary session in
>>>documentary filmmaking, and she will teach us ways in which our own
>>>families
>>>and our everyday lives provide us with an opportunity to create social
>>>change. The title of her discussion track is "Families as Agents of
>>>Change."
>>>
>>>Since August, it has been my privilege and honor to serve as program
>>>director of the YWCA of Washington State University. The YWCA is an
>>>activist
>>>organization with one imperative: eliminating racism and empowering women.
>>>The YWCA began as the Young Women's Christian Association. We are proud of
>>>our heritage, but in the 152 years since our founding, we have expanded
>>>our
>>>reach, our membership, and our vision of the world. The YWCA has always
>>>been
>>>committed to peace and increased global understanding. Our first project
>>>after our founding in 1855 was to create housing opportunities for nurses
>>>returning from the Crimean War.
>>>
>>>Throughout our history, the YWCA has been concerned about health care, job
>>>training, working conditions, domestic violence, civil rights and social
>>>justice. In the 1930s, we spoke out against lynching and racial
>>>segregation.
>>>In 1942, we provided services to Japanese-American women who had been
>>>incarcerated in World War II internment camps. The YWCA adopted an
>>>Interracial Charter eight years before the Supreme Court issued its
>>>landmark
>>>decision in Brown vs. the Board of Education.
>>>
>>>Today, there are YWCAs in more than 100 countries, and we remain committed
>>>to diversity, equality, and social justice. We are proud to be a sponsor
>>>of
>>>Finding the Center, a conference which offers participants the chance to
>>>meet and network with others in the community who are also committed to
>>>peace, tolerance, and positive change.
>>>
>>>For more information about Finding the Center, please visit:
>>>
>>>www.uidaho.edu/ftc
>>>
>>>------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>Seeya round town, Moscow.
>>>
>>>Tom Hansen
>>>Moscow, Idaho
>>>
>>>"If not us, who?
>>>If not now, when?"
>>>
>>>- Unknown
>>>
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