[Vision2020] Amazonian Deforestation and Global Warming:Was:Ed theViking, Greenland, and Global Warming

lfalen lfalen at turbonet.com
Wed Apr 4 15:39:36 PDT 2007


Ted

Thanks for your reply. If drastic measures need to be taken here is one.  Drain all the swamps(wet lands). Not only do they produce swamp gas/methane but they are also a breeding ground for mosquitoes that carry diseases such as West Nile.

Roger
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From: "Ted Moffett" starbliss at gmail.com
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 12:32:58 -0700
To: lfalen lfalen at turbonet.com
Subject: Re: Amazonian Deforestation and Global Warming:Was:Ed theViking, Greenland, and Global Warming

> Roger wrote:
> 
>   You have presented a lot of information as to the potential problem. What
> > are your solutions.
> 
> 
> To be blunt, I don't realistically think humanity will adopt solutions
> quickly enough to stop catastrophic global warming.  As Eugene Linden wrote
> on global warming, it is a "libertarian nightmare" given the solutions that
> appear necessary to substantively address the problem: taxes, government
> regulation of industry, strict international treaties, major alterations in
> energy intensive lifestyles, etc.  Your view on this issue is a very common
> one, and good evidence to support the claim that human induced global
> warming will not be aggressively addressed till it is too late.  Then the
> measures that will be necessary to mitigate even more severe global warming
> will make the controls now suggested to solve the problem seem mild.  In
> short, we either make substantive changes now to address global warming,
> changes that are not going to make everyone happy or be possible with a
> totally "free market" approach, or draconian measures will eventually
> be enforced.
> 
> I have posted over and over no doubt to the annoyance of some what solutions
> are required to address global warming, and the compelling scientific
> evidence human contributions are the primary cause.  You can read these
> posts if you wish, given at this time I don't feel like repeating myself.
> 
> There were public talks and speeches given in Moscow in recent months on the
> topic of global warming, so perhaps someone who attended these events can
> post about the solutions that were discussed.
> 
> From Eugene Linden's web site:
> 
> http://www.eugenelinden.com/news1085.html
> 
> But the scientists have sorted it out, and they've done so despite being
> natural contrarians. That's why the consensus that humans are affecting
> climate is so extraordinary. If the public realized the breadth and depth of
> this consensus, climate change would get the consideration it deserves.
> 
> The naysayers know this, and they jump on any report that underscores the
> rare scientific unanimity on the issue. Naomi Oreskes of the University of
> San Diego felt this heat when she published a study in Science. Her simple
> thought was that if rank and file scientists did not share the consensus of
> the leaders of major scientific organizations, dissents would have shown up
> in the peer-reviewed literature. Critics castigated her on the internet, on
> television and on the op-ed page of the Wall Street Journal, but there has
> been no credible challenge to what she actually said in her article. Just
> recently, the sports psychologist who's unpublished study was the basis for
> the naysayer attack on Oreskes, backed off from his assertions.
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