[Vision2020] Risch Says No on Prop 2
J Ford
privatejf32 at hotmail.com
Sat Sep 30 13:30:40 PDT 2006
THANK YOU! My point exactly.
And to answer your other e-mail, Mr. G, no - especially since they are the
PRIME EXAMPLE of what is happening to this community and your attitude, Mr.
G, is the PRIME EXAMPLE of why it is happening.
And IF they had petitioned the City in the first place, we would not be
watching their actions. As it is, they do not go by the rules and so YES, I
will continue to point that out.
J :]
>From: Joe Campbell <joekc at adelphia.net>
>To: "g. crabtree" <jampot at adelphia.net>
>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com, J Ford <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Risch Says No on Prop 2
>Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 12:24:00 -0700
>
>Gary,
>
>Are you saying it is the RIGHT of anyone to buy property anyway, and use it
>how ever they wish independent of the current zoning laws, and then try to
>get the laws changed after the fact?
>
>--
>Joe Campbell
>
>---- "g. crabtree" <jampot at adelphia.net> wrote:
>
>=============
>My goodness, is there no topic which doesn't revolve around your pet
>obsession? It is every person or organizations right to acquire property
>and
>then petition to have zoning modified to accommodate their use if
>necessary.
>
>gc
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 11:04 AM
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Risch Says No on Prop 2
>
>
> > "If a person acquires property, knowing full well that zoning or other
> > regulations preclude a particular use, he would not be entitled to any
> > form
> > of compensation."
> >
> >
> > Is this not EXACTLY what NSA did when they moved into the different
>areas
> > of
> > town and set up business? Not once, not twice, but many,many times?
>And
> > what did the City Council do? THEY CHANGED THE ZONING LAWS TO
>ACCOMMODATE
> > THEM thereby making them "legit" in their present site.
> >
> > Seems to me, it does not matter what laws are on the books, there is a
> > segment of our community that is going to do what it wants, when it
>wants
> > and will make the will of the people and the elected officials bend to
> > their
> > whims.
> >
> >
> >
> > J :]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>From: "g. crabtree" <jampot at adelphia.net>
> >>To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>, "Mark Solomon" <msolomon at moscow.com>
> >>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Risch Says No on Prop 2
> >>Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 09:20:06 -0700
> >>
> >>Mark, what am I missing here?
> >>
> >>"If an owner's ability to use, possess, sell,
> >>or divide private real property is limited or prohibited by the
> >>enactment or enforcement of any land-use law after the date of
> >>acquisition by the owner of the property in a manner that reduces the
> >>fair-market value of the property, the owner shall be entitled to
> >>just compensation."
> >>
> >>If a person acquires property, knowing full well that zoning or other
> >>regulations preclude a particular use, he would not be entitled to any
> >>form
> >>of compensation. Conversely, should a property owner be prevented from
> >>utilizing his land in a perfectly legal manner, according to the laws in
> >>place at the time he purchased the property, it seems perfectly
>reasonable
> >>that he should be reimbursed for his loss. Are you arguing that
>government
> >>should be able to ride roughshod over property owners at the whim of
> >>elected
> >>officials? This sounds to me like democracy at its absolute worst.
> >>
> >>gc
> >>
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Mark Solomon" <msolomon at moscow.com>
> >>To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >>Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 7:29 AM
> >>Subject: [Vision2020] Risch Says No on Prop 2
> >>
> >>
> >> > Risch comes out against property-rights initiative
> >> >
> >> > By DEAN A. FERGUSON
> >> > of the Lewiston Tribune
> >> > 9/30/06
> >> >
> >> > Idaho's governor said a property-rights initiative will have a
> >> > "chilling effect" on government and is not needed to protect property
> >> > owners from eminent domain abuses.
> >> >
> >> > "I suspect probably there are people who want to see this chilling
> >> > effect," Risch told the Lewiston Tribune Friday.
> >> >
> >> > Proposition 2 has two components.
> >> >
> >> > First, the initiative forbids use of eminent domain to take private
> >> > property and turn it over to private interests. Second, the
> >> > initiative requires governments to pay owners when regulations limit
> >> > a property's value.
> >> >
> >> > The eminent domain portion is unneeded, Risch said.
> >> >
> >> > "The Legislature already did that," he said, noting House Bill 555
> >> > passed this year.
> >> >
> >> > The bill responded to a controversial 2005 U.S. Supreme Court
> >> > decision that allowed a Connecticut city to condemn homes and turn
> >> > the land over to private interests.
> >> >
> >> > Proposition 2 merely copies portions of that law.
> >> >
> >> > But the second part has sparked outcries from county and city
> >>governments.
> >> >
> >> > "This new language is going to lead to a lot of litigation," Risch
> >> > said. "I have serious reservations about that."
> >> >
> >> > The initiative reads: "If an owner's ability to use, possess, sell,
> >> > or divide private real property is limited or prohibited by the
> >> > enactment or enforcement of any land-use law after the date of
> >> > acquisition by the owner of the property in a manner that reduces the
> >> > fair-market value of the property, the owner shall be entitled to
> >> > just compensation."
> >> >
> >> > Officials worry they will either have to abandon attempts to regulate
> >> > growth or repeatedly pay big money to landowners who oppose planning
> >> > and zoning regulations.
> >> >
> >> > If zoning regulations forbid putting a junkyard next to your house,
> >> > the city or county may have to pay the junkyard owner or repeal the
> >> > ordinance, according to an analysis from the Idaho Association of
> >> > Counties.
> >> >
> >> > So, either the junkyard goes in or the taxpayers pay to keep it out.
> >> >
> >> > Opponents of the initiative point to Oregon where Measure 37, a
> >> > similar initiative, passed in 2004.
> >> >
> >> > Despite letting most landowners ignore land-use regulations, the
> >> > state faces more than 3,000 claims totaling in the neighborhood of
> >> > $4.5 billion.
> >> >
> >> > The Idaho initiative earned a spot on the November ballot after
> >> > conservative activist Laird Maxwell launched a $330,000 campaign to
> >> > pay signature gatherers. New York libertarian activist Howard Rich
> >> > has been identified as the source of much of the Idaho money and
> >> > initiatives in other states. Similar initiatives are on the ballots
> >> > in Washington, Montana, Nevada, Arizona and California.
> >> >
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