[Vision2020] Guns in Greenleaf

Dick Sherwin rvrcowboy at clearwire.net
Mon Sep 25 15:21:03 PDT 2006


Penny,

I hate to admit it, but we either have the same problem down here in the valley, or, some of your looney drivers have escaped from the Palouse.

Dick
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Pennsylvania Place 
  To: Vision2020 
  Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 12:56 PM
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Guns in Greenleaf


  I'm in favor of going one step further and revoking most of the drivers licenses in Moscow - anyone tried to cross a street on a bike or on foot lately? "Pedestrian Friendly" is just words in Moscow - you're safer jaywalking in Seattle than using a crosswalk in Moscow - students driving on the cellphone, etc. And apparently, if they pretend to not see you waiting to cross, they don't actually have to stop for you - must be some nuance of Moscow city code I am unaware of.

  Penny

  Dick Sherwin <rvrcowboy at clearwire.net> wrote:
    Little Tom writes: "Heck, some people I wouldn't trust behind the wheel of
    an automobile. I seriously doubt that giving everybody in Moscow a gun is
    the answer."
    ---------------------------------------------------------
    I agree. I certainly wouldn't trust most of the population of Moscow to own
    a gun either.

    Dick S
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "Tom Hansen" 
    To: ; 
    Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 11:47 AM
    Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Guns in Greenleaf


    > Perhaps this ordinance was agreeable to the town of Greenleaf, Idaho.
    But,
    > I strongly oppose such a measure here in Vandalville.
    >
    > Heck, some people I wouldn't trust behind the wheel of an automobile. I
    > seriously doubt that giving everybody in Moscow a gun is the answer.
    >
    > The article posted by Chas states:
    >
    > "The proposed ordinance is modeled after a similar plan that went into
    place
    > in 1982 in Kennesaw, Ga. In that instance there was a dramatic decrease
    in
    > criminal activity."
    >
    > Prior to the ordninance, one can hardly imagine what Kennesaw, Georgia
    must
    > have been like, such that giving everybody a gun dramatically decreased
    > criminal activity.
    >
    > However, should our city council EVER consider (let alone adopt) such an
    > ordinance, I would actively oppose it.
    >
    > And, yet, if such an ordinance is adopted, I strongly urge the city
    council
    > to hold onto movie rights to "Shootout at Friendship Square".
    >
    > Until then . . .
    >
    > Seeya round town, pardner.
    >
    > Tom Hansen
    > Vandalville, Idaho
    >
    > PS - I know that I shold have listened to the voices and stayed home today
    > to clean my guns.
    >
    >
    > >From: Chasuk 
    > >To: Vision2020 
    > >Subject: [Vision2020] Guns in Greenleaf
    > >Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 23:24:27 -0700
    > >
    > >http://www.fox12news.com/Global/story.asp?S=5437033
    > >
    > >Proposed Ordinance asks Each Household to Have a Firearm
    > >
    > >Greenleaf, Idaho -- All Americans have the right to bear arms. Some
    > >towns have even gone as far as to require each household to have a
    > >gun. Now a small Idaho town is contemplating a similar idea-- it's
    > >called the Civil Emergencies Ordinance. And although gun ownership is
    > >just one piece of this ordinance, it's the part that's getting the
    > >most attention.
    > >
    > >"We've blessed to be a fairly rural area of the state, so we don't
    > >have a lot of crime and I think we'd like to keep it that way," said
    > >Lee Belt, Greenleaf city clerk.
    > >
    > >Drive about 10 minutes west of Caldwell and you'll run into Greenleaf,
    > >Idaho, population 860. If city council member Steve Jett has his way,
    > >each head of household that can legally own a gun, will. Along with
    > >that they're encouraged to have ammunition and appropriate training.
    > >
    > >"I think the city council is hoping it will happen and that it will be
    > >a deterrent to crime as the city and region increases in population,"
    > >said Belt.
    > >
    > >The proposed ordinance is modeled after a similar plan that went into
    > >place in 1982 in Kennesaw, Ga. In that instance there was a dramatic
    > >decrease in criminal activity. Although crime isn't a huge problem
    > >for residents of Greenleaf, the growth in neighboring counties leads
    > >them to believe they too are in for some changes.
    > >
    > >"There's not a lot of crime here, but I think it's coming, it's
    > >getting worse everyday," said Art Bailey, owner of the Greenleaf
    > >Store.
    > >
    > >While the plan does encourages firearm ownership, the ordinance goes
    > >beyond that.
    > >
    > >"The largest part itself deals with emergency capabilities," said Belt.
    > >
    > >The plan will establish an emergency response plan, and promote its
    > >citizen response teams and neighborhood watch volunteer groups, a
    > >proactive approach to keep the crime rate to a minimum. So how have
    > >residents responded? According to almost everyone we spoke to, they
    > >already owned a gun or multiple guns, so this would have no effect on
    > >them either way.
    > >
    > >"I don't know if it is good for every household, but we being hunters
    > >have always had guns," said Bonnie Cagle, a Greenleaf resident.
    > >
    > >"I think it is an excellent idea," said Bailey. "If the citizens are
    > >armed were not at a disadvantage."
    > >
    > >We did ask to speak with the city council member who proposed the
    > >ordinance but he was out of town. In November, the council will
    > >decide whether or not to adopt the ordinance.
    > >
    > >--
    > >"Intolerance betrays want of faith in one's cause." -- Mahatma Gandhi
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