[Vision2020] attacks that really matter

[Dick Sherwin]

Donovan,

Truth is, Tom can't tell the difference.  He is so intent on being clever and cute the intent, if there ever really is one, of his message is lost in the translation.  This is basically a symptom of the disease of liberalism, brought on by a desire to be warm, fuzzy and totally politically correct at all times.

Forgive him, he knows not what he says and neither do the rest of us most of the time.

Dick S
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Donovan Arnold 
  To: Tom Hansen ; vision2020 at moscow.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 8:14 AM
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] attacks that really matter


Tommy writes:"Now I'm confused.Are we discussing Sunil and his suposed defense of child molesters or are we talking about the un-Pastorized Douglas "When Sitler's free, he belongs to me" Wilson and the infamous "we all should forgive Sitler because he has repented" letter?"Well, if you are unable to tell the difference between the two. . . _DJA

  Tom Hansen <idahotom at hotmail.com> wrote:
    Jeesh, Arnold -

    Now I'm confused.

    Are we discussing Sunil and his suposed defense of child molesters or are we 
    talking about the un-Pastorized Douglas "When Sitler's free, he belongs to 
    me" Wilson and the infamous "we all should forgive Sitler because he has 
    repented" letter?

    http://www.tomandrodna.com/CR_2005_02027/CC_Ltr_081905.pdf

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    Inquiring minds want to know, Arnold.

    Tom Hansen
    Vandalville, Idaho


    >-----Original Message-----
    >From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
    >On Behalf Of Donovan Arnold
    >Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 12:38 PM
    >To: g. crabtree; Betsy Dickow; keely emerinemix;
    >sunilramalingam at hotmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
    >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [Spam] Re: attacks that really matter
    >
    >
    >
    >Gary,
    >
    >Thanks for your remarks and perspective. I always appreciate it. I don't
    >disagree with what you are saying, but you are not addressing my point.
    >Perhaps it got lost along the trail of emails.
    >
    >1) I am not talking about not defending people that have been accused of a
    >crime. I think that is all fine and dandy. I even support the right of an
    >appeal, maybe even two or three in cases of rape, child molestation or
    >murder.
    >
    >2) I am not stating that I believe that public defenders are evil, or 
    >wrong.
    >
    >What I am saying is here, if you have a guy who has been convicted by a
    >court of law, the guy admits to molesting these children, and many more and
    >the lawyer argues the guy has the RIGHT to leave jail, get in a car, and
    >drive to another town, spend time there, and come back, completely
    >unsupervised during the travel time--we have a public defender that isn't
    >defending anyone.
    >
    >I don't think that is even in the best interests of the child molester
    >because they are placed in a position to re-offend which would result in a
    >worse conviction. I think it is perfectly reasonable to argue that this
    >person should be with someone at all times that has been trained to prevent
    >and limit temptation of the perp. If there is not somebody available to
    >watch and supervisor this person, they should not be allowed out of jail.
    >
    >I also don't think it is in the best interests of the defense to argue for
    >early release. Early release increases their chance of re-offending,
    >resulting in worse sentences against for the offender.
    >
    >I don't think there is a problem with the law. I think there is a problem
    >with a judicial system that does not seek the truth but instead has two
    >lawyers squaring off against each other to see who can win regardless of
    >what is best for society and the people involved. The people that can 
    >change
    >it is the lawyers. We don't have a system that is about truth and 
    >justice,
    >but about cash and the ability to make a good legal argument.
    >
    >As Dick pointed out, I am not arguing points of law, or legislation so much
    >as I am arguing points of morality and safety. A defense attorney, public,
    >or private, that allows a person who has murdered and/or molested the
    >innocent is committing a grave sin against society just to win a case.
    >Lawyers that hide behind the law, may do so, but they cannot hide from God
    >and his law and the knowledge that they released someone that goes on to
    >harm many others.
    >
    >Gary, the difference between you and many lawyers, is that if someone asked
    >you to unlock a house door so they could beat their wife or rape a child,
    >you would not say, OK, he paid my fee who am I to get in the way of this
    >rights.
    >
    >Best to you Gary,
    >
    >_DJA
    >


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