[Vision2020] New Senate Report is full of shit....
tonytime at clearwire.net
Tue Sep 12 10:57:00 PDT 2006
Well Andreas, we covered this ground several months ago, but to reiterate:
It is primarily the decimation of our HUMINT capabilities which have been
most devastating from an intelligence standpoint. My reading over the years
has informed me that a nation without a large, active and competent fleet of
Intel operatives on the ground overseas is significantly handicapped.
Surely you can appreciate the limited usefulness of satellite imagery and
other such long-range methods. HUMINT, or human intelligence, is critical.
Regarding #1) COINTELPRO, I would think it quite appropriate for the FBI
to keep an eye on the activities of a number of groups and individuals.
It's called prudence and providing for domestic security, government's
#2) Sounds GREAT to me.
#3) Reluctant to swallow whole, your summary of this alleged activity.
#4) Would depend upon the specific circumstances, but could envision
scenarios where an administration might prefer to keep such an option on the
#5) Fine. Those not aiding terrorist financially have nothing to fear.
Peace out, --T
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andreas Schou" <ophite at gmail.com>
To: "Tony Simpson" <tonytime at clearwire.net>
Cc: "Ted Moffett" <starbliss at gmail.com>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] New Senate Report is full of shit....
>> it was DEMOCRATS, specifically FRANK CHURCH, who castrated our
>> capabilities years ago. For you to place all the blame for the resulting
>> intel problems at the feet of the Bush administration is either
>> or simply ignorant.
> Interesting. Which of these intelligence activities, ended by the
> Church Commission, would you support re-establishing?
> (1) COINTELPRO, which, among other things, kept FBI agents busy
> keeping files on Martin Luther King and John Lennon.
> (2) The Huston Plan, which recommended warrantless wiretaps,
> burglaries, and "false flag" operations against lefty organizations.
> The first draft recommended concentration camps for student agitators.
> (3) ARTICHOKE, which fed LSD to CIA agents.
> (4) The random assassination of democratically elected leaders, like
> Patrice Lumumba, without Congressional oversight.
> (5) The use of the IRS as a domestic intelligence agency, targetting
> Also, what in the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act or the
> Hughes-Ryan Act, which came out of the Church Committee cripples
> American intelligence-gathering? Please be specific.
> -- ACS
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