[Vision2020] Joe and the Curse of the Billy Goat

David Williams davidwilliams365 at hotmail.com
Tue Sep 12 09:17:09 PDT 2006


Wow...  Everyone be sure to pile on and add their two cents.


>From: debismith at moscow.com
>To: "Deacon James" <deaconblues42 at gmail.com>
>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Joe and the Curse of the Billy Goat
>Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 01:01:55 -0700
>
>Deacon, guess you can't separate sheep from goats. Sheep are your pastorr's 
>meat. Goats
>kick over fences, run free, and don't ask how, when, where, and how high. I 
>think you haven't
>got anyone's goat. Not even your own.
>
>Debi R-S
>
>  Date sent:      	Mon, 11 Sep 2006 23:54:28 -0700
>From:           	"Deacon James" <deaconblues42 at gmail.com>
>To:             	"Joe Campbell" <joekc at adelphia.net>
>Copies to:      	vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject:        	Re: [Vision2020] Joe and the Curse of the Billy Goat
>
>Dr. Campbell,
>
>I believe I have your goat. You can have it back now.
>
>Deacon
>
>On 9/11/06, Joe Campbell <joekc at adelphia.net> wrote:
> >
> > Deacon,
> >
> > I can handle a bit of ribbing. And I certainly don't mind dishing it out
> > myself! But the lame stories below are an insult to my intelligence.
> >
> > You mentioned the baseball stats of two folks who happened to both be
> > named 'Joe' -- one of who also shares my own last name. Why? Why, when
> > talking about Joseph Earl Campbell, did you refer to him as 'Joe 
>Campbell'
> > in the subject heading of the post? Why mention the stats of Joseph 
>Benes at
> > all? Why refer to him as 'Joe'? Why title the subject "Joe goes bananas"
> > when, in fact, he didn't go bananas but his nickname was "Bananas"? None 
>of
> > the stuff below makes any sense at all.
> >
> > You are a liar, plain and simple, and I'd be a fool to think otherwise.
> >
> > Even if I was wrong in this judgment you should at least have the 
>decency
> > to understand why I might have been mistaken. Instead you chose to blame 
>me
> > for jumping to conclusions.
> >
> > I don't want to talk about this issue any further.
> >
> > --
> > Joe Campbell
> >
> > ---- Deacon James <deaconblues42 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > =============
> > Joe,
> >
> > Neither of those Joes was referring to you. Go back and read more than 
>the
> > subject. Both of those guys had been long done with baseball before you
> > were
> > even a glimmer in your Ph.D.'s eye.
> >
> > The first was about Joseph Earl Campbell, who only played in one major
> > league game (May 3, 1967), but struck out in every one of his at-bats.
> > Hence
> > the title, "Joe Campbell Strikes Out". Maybe I should have been more
> > specific and included the middle name. After all, Joseph Earl Campbell 
>is
> > most certainly not you.
> >
> > The second was about Joseph Benes, whom his teammates nicknamed 
>"Bananas",
> > and who played in 1931. That is where the subject came from. I was going
> > to
> > say "Joe Is Bananas", but I thought it was funnier to say that this guy
> > (who
> > is most certainly NOT you) was going crazy. Obviously there was 
>confusion;
> > perhaps I should have been more specific and included the last name, but 
>I
> > thought that including his nickname -- what he is most known for -- 
>would
> > have been enough.
> >
> > However, you're right. Nobody buys it when you just play dumb. As you 
>put
> > it, "We can all see right through that crap." When I think that, "It's 
>all
> > about the code" and "It's a biased, pro-Walmart presentation (but I'm 
>not
> > going to tell you why)" inexplicably pop into my head.
> >
> > I still don't know where all of the "snotty, rude, insulting remarks 
>made
> > toward liberals" are to be found, or why I deserved a "He started it", 
>but
> > it's OK. I've come to realize that when you get worked up thinking your
> > pride is under fire, you say things you don't really mean.
> >
> > And really, even if I were implying that you strike out or are going 
>crazy
> > (which, of course, I most certainly wasn't), you would think that a 
>grown
> > man, especially one as educated and prestigious as yourself, could 
>handle
> > a
> > bit of ribbing.
> >
> > All in good fun,
> >
> > Deacon
> >
> > On 9/11/06, Joe Campbell <joekc at adelphia.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > Deacon, in all due respect, this post only makes me believe that those
> > > nasty rumors floating around town that Kirkers have no problem lying 
>to
> > > non-Kirkers are true.
> > >
> > > Did you not post a message awhile back with the heading "Joe Campbell
> > > strikes out"? Did you not follow that with the recent post -- "Joe 
>goes
> > > bananas" -- which happened also to follow a post by me that was 
>critical
> > of
> > > NSA? It is almost as if you actually believe that those silly 
>rhetorical
> > > techniques that you learned at school will work here, outside in the
> > real
> > > world. They don't. We can all see right through that crap.
> > >
> > > I'm not upset about any of this. I'm just illustrating what happens 
>when
> > > we play these same childish games. None of these posts are a product 
>of
> > any
> > > anger on my part. It is all just fun and games, CC-style. If you can't
> > beat
> > > them, join them. Right?
> > >
> > > If you want me to treat you with respect, you'll have to return the
> > favor.
> > > And that will begin with an apology and end with your not so cleverly
> > veiled
> > > insults. Let's just talk about the issues and leave it at that.
> > >
> > > Best, Joe
> > >
> > > ---- Deacon James <deaconblues42 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > =============
> > > Joe,
> > >
> > > I still don't know what you are talking about. Every post you make is 
>a
> > > non
> > > sequitur. I don't know why you're so upset. Take a chill-pill, man.
> > >
> > > First of all, I'm not even sure what issue I was first to bring up.
> > Shoot,
> > > all I know is that you start talking about fannies, and then J.
> > > Woolfinford
> > > starts talking about particular people's posteriors, and before you 
>know
> > > it,
> > > you're ready to start handing someone one in the eye. That escalated
> > > really
> > > quickly.
> > >
> > > Second, I don't know where all of the "snotty, rude, insulting remarks
> > > made
> > > toward liberals" are to be found. I don't think there's anything to 
>get
> > > worked up about. I don't know, though. Maybe you've just been having a
> > > rough
> > > time a work or something?
> > >
> > > Lastly, I know that you can resort to adolescent name-calling, but I'd
> > > like
> > > to ask you not to. It's not becoming of you. You're better than this,
> > Joe.
> > >
> > > Hope that helps, buddy. Let me know if there's anything I can do for
> > you.
> > >
> > > Take care,
> > >
> > > Deacon
> > >
> > > On 9/11/06, Joe Campbell < joekc at adelphia.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Can we keep in mind that Deacon was the first to post on this issue.
> > Is
> > > > your point, David, that when conservatives make snotty, rude,
> > insulting
> > > > remarks toward liberals that that is OK but when liberals return the
> > > favor
> > > > it is not?
> > > >
> > > > I just want to understand what the rules are. You let me know what
> > they
> > > > are and I'll adapt. If you want to have informed discussions about
> > > issues I
> > > > can do that. If you want to resort to adolesent name-calling I can 
>do
> > > that,
> > > > too.
> > > >
> > > > I understand that you think that the rules work differently for all 
>of
> > > you
> > > > then they do for folks like me but that, in a nut-shell, is my major
> > > problem
> > > > with the CC/NSA gang to begin with.
> > > >
> > > > Time for a sports update!
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Joe Campbell
> > > >
> > > > ---- David Williams <davidwilliams365 at hotmail.com > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > =============
> > > > Ooohh, a salvo from Joe Campbell.  What a zinger.  Ummmm...  I'd
> > > recommend
> > > > more thought invested next time around.  Looks like someone FINALLY
> > got
> > > > under his skin.  Another victory for the Sports Boyz, or whatever J
> > > calls
> > > > 'em.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: Joe Campbell <joekc at adelphia.net>
> > > > >To: Deacon James <deaconblues42 at gmail.com >
> > > > >CC: viz <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > > > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Joe Goes Bananas
> > > > >Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 7:40:23 -0700
> > > > >
> > > > >Man, Deacon, it must take you hours to find references of baseball
> > guys
> > > > >named 'Joe' to make your posts! I mean, it is such an unusual name!
> > > > >
> > > > >Earlier today I googled "Deacon kisses butt" but I didn't come up
> > with
> > > > >anything. I'll keep trying!
> > > > >
> > > > >--
> > > > >Joe Campbell
> > > > >
> > > > >---- Deacon James <deaconblues42 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >=============
> > > > >Visionatics,
> > > > >
> > > > >Joe "Bananas" Benes was called up in 1931 by the St. Louis 
>Cardinals.
> > > As
> > > > an
> > > > >infielder (2B, 3B, SS), he had 12 at-bats in a total of 10 games.
> > > During
> > > > >that time, he batted .167 (2 for 12), and had a .955 fielding
> > > percentage.
> > > > >Though Joe Bananas wasn't around to enjoy it, the 1931 Cardinals, 
>led
> > > by
> > > > >outfielder Chick Hafey, went on to win the World Series.
> > > > >
> > > > >Take care,
> > > > >
> > > > >Deacon
> > > > >
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