[Vision2020] Joe and the Curse of the Billy Goat

[debismith at moscow.com]

Deacon, guess you can't separate sheep from goats. Sheep are your pastorr's meat. Goats 
kick over fences, run free, and don't ask how, when, where, and how high. I think you haven't 
got anyone's goat. Not even your own. 

Debi R-S

 Date sent:      	Mon, 11 Sep 2006 23:54:28 -0700
From:           	"Deacon James" <deaconblues42 at gmail.com>
To:             	"Joe Campbell" <joekc at adelphia.net>
Copies to:      	vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject:        	Re: [Vision2020] Joe and the Curse of the Billy Goat

Dr. Campbell,

I believe I have your goat. You can have it back now.

Deacon

On 9/11/06, Joe Campbell <joekc at adelphia.net> wrote:
>
> Deacon,
>
> I can handle a bit of ribbing. And I certainly don't mind dishing it out
> myself! But the lame stories below are an insult to my intelligence.
>
> You mentioned the baseball stats of two folks who happened to both be
> named 'Joe' -- one of who also shares my own last name. Why? Why, when
> talking about Joseph Earl Campbell, did you refer to him as 'Joe Campbell'
> in the subject heading of the post? Why mention the stats of Joseph Benes at
> all? Why refer to him as 'Joe'? Why title the subject "Joe goes bananas"
> when, in fact, he didn't go bananas but his nickname was "Bananas"? None of
> the stuff below makes any sense at all.
>
> You are a liar, plain and simple, and I'd be a fool to think otherwise.
>
> Even if I was wrong in this judgment you should at least have the decency
> to understand why I might have been mistaken. Instead you chose to blame me
> for jumping to conclusions.
>
> I don't want to talk about this issue any further.
>
> --
> Joe Campbell
>
> ---- Deacon James <deaconblues42 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> =============
> Joe,
>
> Neither of those Joes was referring to you. Go back and read more than the
> subject. Both of those guys had been long done with baseball before you
> were
> even a glimmer in your Ph.D.'s eye.
>
> The first was about Joseph Earl Campbell, who only played in one major
> league game (May 3, 1967), but struck out in every one of his at-bats.
> Hence
> the title, "Joe Campbell Strikes Out". Maybe I should have been more
> specific and included the middle name. After all, Joseph Earl Campbell is
> most certainly not you.
>
> The second was about Joseph Benes, whom his teammates nicknamed "Bananas",
> and who played in 1931. That is where the subject came from. I was going
> to
> say "Joe Is Bananas", but I thought it was funnier to say that this guy
> (who
> is most certainly NOT you) was going crazy. Obviously there was confusion;
> perhaps I should have been more specific and included the last name, but I
> thought that including his nickname -- what he is most known for -- would
> have been enough.
>
> However, you're right. Nobody buys it when you just play dumb. As you put
> it, "We can all see right through that crap." When I think that, "It's all
> about the code" and "It's a biased, pro-Walmart presentation (but I'm not
> going to tell you why)" inexplicably pop into my head.
>
> I still don't know where all of the "snotty, rude, insulting remarks made
> toward liberals" are to be found, or why I deserved a "He started it", but
> it's OK. I've come to realize that when you get worked up thinking your
> pride is under fire, you say things you don't really mean.
>
> And really, even if I were implying that you strike out or are going crazy
> (which, of course, I most certainly wasn't), you would think that a grown
> man, especially one as educated and prestigious as yourself, could handle
> a
> bit of ribbing.
>
> All in good fun,
>
> Deacon
>
> On 9/11/06, Joe Campbell <joekc at adelphia.net> wrote:
> >
> > Deacon, in all due respect, this post only makes me believe that those
> > nasty rumors floating around town that Kirkers have no problem lying to
> > non-Kirkers are true.
> >
> > Did you not post a message awhile back with the heading "Joe Campbell
> > strikes out"? Did you not follow that with the recent post -- "Joe goes
> > bananas" -- which happened also to follow a post by me that was critical
> of
> > NSA? It is almost as if you actually believe that those silly rhetorical
> > techniques that you learned at school will work here, outside in the
> real
> > world. They don't. We can all see right through that crap.
> >
> > I'm not upset about any of this. I'm just illustrating what happens when
> > we play these same childish games. None of these posts are a product of
> any
> > anger on my part. It is all just fun and games, CC-style. If you can't
> beat
> > them, join them. Right?
> >
> > If you want me to treat you with respect, you'll have to return the
> favor.
> > And that will begin with an apology and end with your not so cleverly
> veiled
> > insults. Let's just talk about the issues and leave it at that.
> >
> > Best, Joe
> >
> > ---- Deacon James <deaconblues42 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > =============
> > Joe,
> >
> > I still don't know what you are talking about. Every post you make is a
> > non
> > sequitur. I don't know why you're so upset. Take a chill-pill, man.
> >
> > First of all, I'm not even sure what issue I was first to bring up.
> Shoot,
> > all I know is that you start talking about fannies, and then J.
> > Woolfinford
> > starts talking about particular people's posteriors, and before you know
> > it,
> > you're ready to start handing someone one in the eye. That escalated
> > really
> > quickly.
> >
> > Second, I don't know where all of the "snotty, rude, insulting remarks
> > made
> > toward liberals" are to be found. I don't think there's anything to get
> > worked up about. I don't know, though. Maybe you've just been having a
> > rough
> > time a work or something?
> >
> > Lastly, I know that you can resort to adolescent name-calling, but I'd
> > like
> > to ask you not to. It's not becoming of you. You're better than this,
> Joe.
> >
> > Hope that helps, buddy. Let me know if there's anything I can do for
> you.
> >
> > Take care,
> >
> > Deacon
> >
> > On 9/11/06, Joe Campbell < joekc at adelphia.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > Can we keep in mind that Deacon was the first to post on this issue.
> Is
> > > your point, David, that when conservatives make snotty, rude,
> insulting
> > > remarks toward liberals that that is OK but when liberals return the
> > favor
> > > it is not?
> > >
> > > I just want to understand what the rules are. You let me know what
> they
> > > are and I'll adapt. If you want to have informed discussions about
> > issues I
> > > can do that. If you want to resort to adolesent name-calling I can do
> > that,
> > > too.
> > >
> > > I understand that you think that the rules work differently for all of
> > you
> > > then they do for folks like me but that, in a nut-shell, is my major
> > problem
> > > with the CC/NSA gang to begin with.
> > >
> > > Time for a sports update!
> > >
> > > --
> > > Joe Campbell
> > >
> > > ---- David Williams <davidwilliams365 at hotmail.com > wrote:
> > >
> > > =============
> > > Ooohh, a salvo from Joe Campbell.  What a zinger.  Ummmm...  I'd
> > recommend
> > > more thought invested next time around.  Looks like someone FINALLY
> got
> > > under his skin.  Another victory for the Sports Boyz, or whatever J
> > calls
> > > 'em.
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: Joe Campbell <joekc at adelphia.net>
> > > >To: Deacon James <deaconblues42 at gmail.com >
> > > >CC: viz <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Joe Goes Bananas
> > > >Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 7:40:23 -0700
> > > >
> > > >Man, Deacon, it must take you hours to find references of baseball
> guys
> > > >named 'Joe' to make your posts! I mean, it is such an unusual name!
> > > >
> > > >Earlier today I googled "Deacon kisses butt" but I didn't come up
> with
> > > >anything. I'll keep trying!
> > > >
> > > >--
> > > >Joe Campbell
> > > >
> > > >---- Deacon James <deaconblues42 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >=============
> > > >Visionatics,
> > > >
> > > >Joe "Bananas" Benes was called up in 1931 by the St. Louis Cardinals.
> > As
> > > an
> > > >infielder (2B, 3B, SS), he had 12 at-bats in a total of 10 games.
> > During
> > > >that time, he batted .167 (2 for 12), and had a .955 fielding
> > percentage.
> > > >Though Joe Bananas wasn't around to enjoy it, the 1931 Cardinals, led
> > by
> > > >outfielder Chick Hafey, went on to win the World Series.
> > > >
> > > >Take care,
> > > >
> > > >Deacon
> > > >
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