[Vision2020] New Senate Report is full of shit....

Tue Sep 12 00:46:42 PDT 2006

Once again (and ad naseum) Tony Simpson posts with vehemence and no intelligence.

Tony's research, being faulty, spills over onto everyone with a brain. His idiocy MUST be 
accepted as fact...Buck up, Little Cowboy---recheck your Idaho history option. Frank Church
(in spite of his many, many sins) is an Idaho hero---you, ToeKnee, on the other Knee, will 
always be an Idahoer (and it really does sound as you might expect when you say it out loud!).

 If ever there was an enemy of the United States of America (America, being a continent, is 
composed of several nations including the USA) it could be exemplified, to our chagrin, in 
ToeKnees. OUCH---to be a citizen of the best country on the planet lumped in with the big old 
ToeKnee!!! 

UNCLE, I cry. Do not make me an enemy of democracy and all that is fine and good in the 
USA by making the ToeKnees the measuring stick by which we are all judged!!! 

Run away, I plead with you, from the ToeKnee view of the world! Hasten thee to an outpost of 
liberty and justice! Join a monastery, a nunnery, the Democrats, the Mormons, or the Alien 
Abduction Worshiper Web Site!! Just say NO to the ToeKnees!! They are, I say to Thee, 
Loonies, and can be known by their ancient (circa1954) beliefs, rooted in nuttiness and idiocy.

ToeKnee, I have a NEWSFLASH for you---Communists stopped hiding under our beds about 3 
decades ago (in spite of poor old Cliff Wassem's fever dreams). The UN really does attempt to 
keep peace in a vicious world, and women really aren't out to cut off your manhood (with the 
exception, perhaps, of your ex-wife who may have reason to bother) because most of us don't 
consider you as anything at all, let alone an intelligent huMAN. 

Go ahead, wag that thing at us again. We laughed at it before, and only the laughs have 
grown. We (Royal We here, being Queen of Nothing Important) believe you are a Good Daddy. 
We also believe your kids will grow up, be their own people, and (hopefully) not be clones of 
the ToeKnee World View. 

Debi Robinson-Smith

PS---Please, my dear friends, I know you want me to kick KnoeKnee in the ToeKnee, but I just 
get irritated at him. I am trying to be nice, and wish you wouldn't forward his crap---I bozo 
filtered the idiot for a reason!! He takes up way too much CPU for nothing constructive!!

From:           	"Tony Simpson" <tonytime at clearwire.net>
To:             	"Ted Moffett" <starbliss at gmail.com>
Date sent:      	Mon, 11 Sep 2006 18:10:19 -0700
Copies to:      	vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject:        	Re: [Vision2020] New Senate Report is full of shit....

Ted, remember that we ALL thought Saddam had those WMDs.  He consistently thwarted the 
inspectors and flouted the U.N. mandates.  BOTH democrats AND republicans voted in favor of 
authorizing the use of force.  We were all victimized by a less than sterling intelligence 
apparatus, but mind you, it was DEMOCRATS, specifically FRANK CHURCH, who castrated 
our intelligence capabilities years ago.  For you to place all the blame for the resulting intel 
problems at the feet of the Bush administration is either disingenuous or simply ignorant.

Won't you research a bit more thoroughly before advocating on behalf of America's enemies in 
the future?

Peace out.

--Tony
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ted Moffett 
  To: Jim Meyer 
  Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 11:37 AM
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] New Senate Report Confirms Bush lied about IraqConnection al-
Qaida, Lied about justification for the war

  Jim et. al.

  I heard about the ABC docudrama on terrorism, and the factual errors it contains.  As long as 
people know it is fictionalized, that's one thing, but many may assume it is based on solid 
vetted historical research.

  It is amazing how many US citizens still believe that the 9/11 attacks were related to 
Saddam and his supposed connections to Al Qaeda... And disturbing to witness how easily 
public opinion can be manipulated, indeed is still being manipulated, by half truths and 
falsehoods from the government. 

  The "Weapons of Mass Distraction" function very well!

  Ted Moffett

  On 9/11/06, Jim Meyer <m1e2y3e4 at moscow.com> wrote: 
    Ted,
    I am embarrassed that nobody else responded to you.

    The current number of Americans killed in Iraq is 2666. The total number 
    of casualties of Americans is about 20,000. Every vision2020 member
    should listen to Sen Carl Leven explain the timeline in the report. The
    report is damning even with the redactions. I am sure you can Sen Leven 
    on the CSPAN website. You can also find the entire report.

    The facts are that Saddam had nothing whatsoever to do with  911.  There
    were no significant weapons of mass destruction and due diligence would
    have made it obvious even at the time. In 2003, 70% of Americans
    believed there was a link between Saddam and
    911.(http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2003-09-06-poll-iraq_x.htm ).
    Today that figure is still 43%
    (http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/09/06/iraq.poll/index.html). Meanwhile
    the war profiteers are making a killing, literally and figuratively. 

    The American people still believe the lie. They believe that Bush's
    illegal war of aggression in Iraq, estimated to have killed between
    40,000 and 250,000 Iraqi people, not to mention our own people, is
    somehow connected to 911. You may close your ears and eyes, but the lie 
    remains. The truth is that our president and his cabinet should be
    impeached, tried for treason, and tried as a war criminal on a multitude
    of levels. And we are NOT safer.....

    This past weekend and Monday, with the two-part Disney/ABC docu-drama 
    about 911 and Bush's free 15 minute speech about 911 on Monday, the
    propaganda lie will continue. I am glad you are not one of the 43% that
    believe it and I hope other vision2020 members also don't support it.
    Our country will only survive if people wake to the facts. To help
    others wake up, I challenge them to watch this link in
    entirety.http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/41418/ . The anger shown is
    appropriate to the circumstances. If you are any less angry, you are 
    either a stooge, a sheep, or lemming.

    It is time to get angry. It is not a pleasant thing--but it is time
    because--our country, as we know it, depends on it.

    I want to be fair, can anyone give me a rational reason why Bush should 
    not be tried for treason? For lying about getting us into a war that
    killed 2666 Americans and wounded 20,000, waging an illegal war of
    aggression, and for not upholding the constitution?

    Jim

    Today's Topics:
    >    1. New Senate Report On Iraq Gets Scant Attention (Ted Moffett)
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    > Message: 1
    > Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 18:41:39 -0700 
    > From: "Ted Moffett" <starbliss at gmail.com>
    > Subject: [Vision2020] New Senate Report On Iraq Gets Scant Attention
    > To: "Vision 2020" < vision2020 at moscow.com>
    > Message-ID: <d03f69e0609091841y521f288vbc4e9f32e431654 at mail.gmail.com >
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    > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14739762/
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    > It discloses for the first time an October 2005 CIA assessment that prior to 
    > the war Saddams government did not have a relationship, harbor, or turn a
    > blind eye toward Zarqawi and his associates. Bush and other administration
    > officials have said that the presence of Zarqawi in Iraq before the war was 
    > evidence of a connection between Saddams government and al-Qaida.
    >
    > The long-awaited report, said Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich., a member of the
    > committee, is a devastating indictment of the Bush-Cheney administrations 
    > unrelenting, misleading and deceptive attempts to link Saddam to al-Qaida.
    > The report, two years in the making, comes out amid a series of Bush
    > speeches stressing that pursuing the military effort in Iraq is crucial to 
    > winning the war on terrorism, and two months before that policy will be
    > tested in midterm elections.
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