[Vision2020] Joe LIKES Bananas

Joe Campbell joekc at adelphia.net
Mon Sep 11 23:31:13 PDT 2006


I can handle a bit of ribbing. And I certainly don't mind dishing it out myself! But the lame stories below are an insult to my intelligence.

You mentioned the baseball stats of two folks who happened to both be named 'Joe' -- one of who also shares my own last name. Why? Why, when talking about Joseph Earl Campbell, did you refer to him as 'Joe Campbell' in the subject heading of the post? Why mention the stats of Joseph Benes at all? Why refer to him as 'Joe'? Why title the subject “Joe goes bananas” when, in fact, he didn’t go bananas but his nickname was “Bananas”? None of the stuff below makes any sense at all.

You are a liar, plain and simple, and I'd be a fool to think otherwise. 

Even if I was wrong in this judgment you should at least have the decency to understand why I might have been mistaken. Instead you chose to blame me for jumping to conclusions. 

I don't want to talk about this issue any further.

Joe Campbell

---- Deacon James <deaconblues42 at gmail.com> wrote: 


Neither of those Joes was referring to you. Go back and read more than the
subject. Both of those guys had been long done with baseball before you were
even a glimmer in your Ph.D.'s eye.

The first was about Joseph Earl Campbell, who only played in one major
league game (May 3, 1967), but struck out in every one of his at-bats. Hence
the title, "Joe Campbell Strikes Out". Maybe I should have been more
specific and included the middle name. After all, Joseph Earl Campbell is
most certainly not you.

The second was about Joseph Benes, whom his teammates nicknamed "Bananas",
and who played in 1931. That is where the subject came from. I was going to
say "Joe Is Bananas", but I thought it was funnier to say that this guy (who
is most certainly NOT you) was going crazy. Obviously there was confusion;
perhaps I should have been more specific and included the last name, but I
thought that including his nickname -- what he is most known for -- would
have been enough.

However, you're right. Nobody buys it when you just play dumb. As you put
it, "We can all see right through that crap." When I think that, "It's all
about the code" and "It's a biased, pro-Walmart presentation (but I'm not
going to tell you why)" inexplicably pop into my head.

I still don't know where all of the "snotty, rude, insulting remarks made
toward liberals" are to be found, or why I deserved a "He started it", but
it's OK. I've come to realize that when you get worked up thinking your
pride is under fire, you say things you don't really mean.

And really, even if I were implying that you strike out or are going crazy
(which, of course, I most certainly wasn't), you would think that a grown
man, especially one as educated and prestigious as yourself, could handle a
bit of ribbing.

All in good fun,


On 9/11/06, Joe Campbell <joekc at adelphia.net> wrote:
> Deacon, in all due respect, this post only makes me believe that those
> nasty rumors floating around town that Kirkers have no problem lying to
> non-Kirkers are true.
> Did you not post a message awhile back with the heading "Joe Campbell
> strikes out"? Did you not follow that with the recent post -- "Joe goes
> bananas" -- which happened also to follow a post by me that was critical of
> NSA? It is almost as if you actually believe that those silly rhetorical
> techniques that you learned at school will work here, outside in the real
> world. They don't. We can all see right through that crap.
> I'm not upset about any of this. I'm just illustrating what happens when
> we play these same childish games. None of these posts are a product of any
> anger on my part. It is all just fun and games, CC-style. If you can't beat
> them, join them. Right?
> If you want me to treat you with respect, you'll have to return the favor.
> And that will begin with an apology and end with your not so cleverly veiled
> insults. Let's just talk about the issues and leave it at that.
> Best, Joe
> ---- Deacon James <deaconblues42 at gmail.com> wrote:
> =============
> Joe,
> I still don't know what you are talking about. Every post you make is a
> non
> sequitur. I don't know why you're so upset. Take a chill-pill, man.
> First of all, I'm not even sure what issue I was first to bring up. Shoot,
> all I know is that you start talking about fannies, and then J.
> Woolfinford
> starts talking about particular people's posteriors, and before you know
> it,
> you're ready to start handing someone one in the eye. That escalated
> really
> quickly.
> Second, I don't know where all of the "snotty, rude, insulting remarks
> made
> toward liberals" are to be found. I don't think there's anything to get
> worked up about. I don't know, though. Maybe you've just been having a
> rough
> time a work or something?
> Lastly, I know that you can resort to adolescent name-calling, but I'd
> like
> to ask you not to. It's not becoming of you. You're better than this, Joe.
> Hope that helps, buddy. Let me know if there's anything I can do for you.
> Take care,
> Deacon
> On 9/11/06, Joe Campbell < joekc at adelphia.net> wrote:
> >
> > Can we keep in mind that Deacon was the first to post on this issue. Is
> > your point, David, that when conservatives make snotty, rude, insulting
> > remarks toward liberals that that is OK but when liberals return the
> favor
> > it is not?
> >
> > I just want to understand what the rules are. You let me know what they
> > are and I'll adapt. If you want to have informed discussions about
> issues I
> > can do that. If you want to resort to adolesent name-calling I can do
> that,
> > too.
> >
> > I understand that you think that the rules work differently for all of
> you
> > then they do for folks like me but that, in a nut-shell, is my major
> problem
> > with the CC/NSA gang to begin with.
> >
> > Time for a sports update!
> >
> > --
> > Joe Campbell
> >
> > ---- David Williams <davidwilliams365 at hotmail.com > wrote:
> >
> > =============
> > Ooohh, a salvo from Joe Campbell.  What a zinger.  Ummmm...  I'd
> recommend
> > more thought invested next time around.  Looks like someone FINALLY got
> > under his skin.  Another victory for the Sports Boyz, or whatever J
> calls
> > 'em.
> >
> >
> > >From: Joe Campbell <joekc at adelphia.net>
> > >To: Deacon James <deaconblues42 at gmail.com >
> > >CC: viz <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Joe Goes Bananas
> > >Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 7:40:23 -0700
> > >
> > >Man, Deacon, it must take you hours to find references of baseball guys
> > >named 'Joe' to make your posts! I mean, it is such an unusual name!
> > >
> > >Earlier today I googled "Deacon kisses butt" but I didn't come up with
> > >anything. I'll keep trying!
> > >
> > >--
> > >Joe Campbell
> > >
> > >---- Deacon James <deaconblues42 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >=============
> > >Visionatics,
> > >
> > >Joe "Bananas" Benes was called up in 1931 by the St. Louis Cardinals.
> As
> > an
> > >infielder (2B, 3B, SS), he had 12 at-bats in a total of 10 games.
> During
> > >that time, he batted .167 (2 for 12), and had a .955 fielding
> percentage.
> > >Though Joe Bananas wasn't around to enjoy it, the 1931 Cardinals, led
> by
> > >outfielder Chick Hafey, went on to win the World Series.
> > >
> > >Take care,
> > >
> > >Deacon
> > >
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