[Vision2020] Safety Concerns

Sun Sep 3 19:34:54 PDT 2006

The only reason that children stay out of the road is because their  parents told them to? Why don't they do the same thing for other things  that are dangerous? 

 No, as a child I did not play with  things I was told not to and my parents supervised me. Kids that didn't  listen, or who had parents that didn't supervise them where the ones  that got injured. 

 One thing I didn't like as a child was  dumb kids and irresponsible parents taking the fun and functionality  out of everything. Toys that don't shoot, swings that don't swing, fans  that don't spin, and scissors that don't cut because some idiot cannot  supervisor or discipline their own child to listen. 

 Why is  it the responsibility of everyone else to raise the children of bad  parents. How about this, if you cannot raise your child it should be  the parents legal responsibility to find the help they need. 

  Personal responsibility of ones own children should be the key factor  of child safety, not the government sticking warning signs and putting  up orange fences everywhere. How did we make it so many years without  all the government raising our children? Maybe Darwin's theory of  evolution should play out in some instances. 

  Best,

  _DJA

J Ford <privatejf32 at hotmail.com> wrote:  A.  A child is LESS likely to be playing in the street when a car is coming 
than to be climbing on a bunch of pipes that are sitting in an open field 
unsecured and somewhat shaky.

B.  The objects are an open invitation to children to climb them and you 
know it.  How many times as a child did you go into an area that was not as 
safe as it should have been just because it was there?  That's called being 
a child.  Its gonna happen and did.  Thankfully, no one was hurt but THAT 
would have happened sooner or later as well.

C.  As concerned citizens, don't you think it would be better to AVOID an 
accident waiting to happen then sit and watch it happen?

As responsible adults dealing in an area where children are in large 
numbers, it is behooving of them to make sure things are tight and secure.  
Now, if they don't care about the city's children much less about a possible 
law suite over some child getting injured, then I can see them letting it 
go.  BUT, since the site was secured and posted, it seems to me they 
recognized the potential danger and moved to remedy the situation.  For 
that, at least, they should be appreciated.

J  :]

>From: Donovan Arnold 
>To: Ellen Roskovich , privatejf32 at hotmail.com,  
>vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Safety Concerns
>Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 14:00:31 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Ironic isn't it? We have vehicles traveling at about 2 to 3 times the  
>speed necessary to squash and kill a child, and statistically motor  
>vehicles do injury and kill far more children every year, and yet our  
>concern is instead some inanimate objects three feet to the side of the  
>real threat. How biased we are in our way of life and thinking. It is  
>seems people always think it is the OTHER GUY that is causing the risks  
>and problems, not them.
>
>   Best,
>
>   _DJA
>
>Ellen Roskovich  wrote:    Just  happened to notice 
>yesterday as I was driving down Mountain View that  the City, or someone 
>else, has put up a temporary orange fence around  the project pictured, 
>apparently in response to concerns for safety.
>   Ellen A. Roskovich
>
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>
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>From:  "J Ford" 

>To:  vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject:  Re: [Vision2020] Safety Concerns
>Date:  Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:16:30 -0700
> >Here are the pics from the Hoffmann abandoned project site; the City
> >needs to really look at this situation:
> >
> >http://www.tomandrodna.com/Stuff/Third_and_Mountain_View.htm
> >
> >
> >
> >J  :]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>From: "J Ford" 

> >>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> >>Subject: [Vision2020] Safety Concerns
> >>Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 13:12:02 -0700
> >>
> >>Hey, Mike Hoffmann;
> >>
> >>When are you going to clean up the Third Street/Mt. View site?
> >>Since you are no longer   interested in that project, when can the
> >>citizens expect to have what is quickly becoming a dangerous site,
> >>cleaned up?  The children are playing on those pipes and other
> >>things you have out there and since they are NOT secured by the
> >>straps anymore, YOU could be facing a law suite for killing or
> >>injuring someone.
> >>
> >>Just a suggestion.
> >>
> >>Anyone from the City willing to do something about this situation?
> >>
> >>
> >>J  :]
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