[Vision2020] A Religious Empire

[J Ford]

Yes, he has the right to whats wrong - just as we have the right to call him 
on his actions and make him pay for his running off at the mouth about 
people he knows NOTHING about but feels free to accuse of any little thing 
that comes to his little mind.  Actions, ANY actions have 
consequences...don't want those, don't get in a position that results in 
them.

No, you can not be a Confederate and not be a racist...that is their creed, 
motto, life-style, etc.  Hate is their mantra as evidenced by their 
pamphlets and actions.

When is the last time you ever read that the Yankees Baseball Team EVERY 
promoted racist activities, death to certain populations, eletism, etc?  
CC/kirkers/Dougie, et al do just that and the do NOT call themselves 
"yankees" - fact is, they shun away from that title.

Don't you realize that boards/list serves such as this are precisely for the 
purpose of working these type of things out in a community setting?  If we 
can't be allowed to change things even just a little for the better by 
talking it out, then what's the point?  We need to be allowed to call it bad 
when we feel like it is and if others don't want that - choose someplace 
else to be.

JMHO.



J  :]





>From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>To: Joe Campbell <joekc at adelphia.net>
>CC: Vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] A Religious Empire
>Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:27:47 -0800 (PST)
>
>Joe,
>
>  So you don't believe that if an idiot wants to be a  Nazi, worship 
>Hitler, and believe he is superior to everyone else, he  doesn't have that 
>right? No freedom to do what's wrong?
>
>  Can  someone be a "Confederate" and not be a racist? Did you know Yankees 
>  were racists too? We a have a baseball team called the Yankees, is that  
>team promoting racism?
>
>  Joe, can you name one thing in United  States History that is not racist, 
>sexist, or homophobic? Are we to  throw away all US heritage because it had 
>segments of it that were  racist?
>
>   Best,
>
>   _DJA
>
>Joe Campbell <joekc at adelphia.net> wrote:  Donovan,
>
>I  don't think it is OK for anyone to be a Nazi of any kind, just to set  
>the record straight! And I think that someone who classifies himself as  a 
>kind of "Confederate" is either a racist or trying to create  controversy.
>
>--
>Joe Campbell
>
>---- Donovan Arnold  wrote:
>
>=============
>OK or not OK for who and what, Joe?
>
>   Best,
>
>   _DJA
>
>Joe Campbell  wrote:  What if Doug Wilson was a paleo-Nazi. Would that be 
>OK? Just checking!
>--
>Joe Campbell
>
>---- Donovan Arnold  wrote:
>
>=============
>"Doug Wilson, pastor of Moscow's Christ Church and founder of both NSA and
>   K-12 Logos School, confessed that he was a "paleo-confederate," just 
>after
>   NSA President Roy Atwood said that any connection between his college 
>and
>   the neo-confederates was 'laughably stupid.' "--Nick Gier
>
>
>   Boy, Nick would almost have a point if paleo and neo meant the same  
>thing. To bad they don't. And it would be a better point too if Doug  
>Wilson ran New St. Andrews.
>
>  I got an idea of how to boost  UI enrollment and private business 
>investment downtown. Let's tell the  whole world that a Neo Nazi 
>Confederate religious cult that is trying  to kill homosexuals and enslave 
>Black people are controlling our city.  That ought to bring in the tourists 
>and students.
>
>   Mr. Gier, please stop giving Moscow a bad reputation.
>
>   Best,
>
>   _DJA
>
>Tom Hansen  wrote:  >From the "Letters" section of today's (October 26, 
>2006) Spokesman Review -
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------
>
>A religious empire
>
>I want to thank Shawn Vestal for his excellent article ("Old-school," Oct.
>22) on Moscow's New St. Andrews College (NSA).
>
>Doug Wilson, pastor of Moscow's Christ Church and founder of both NSA and
>K-12 Logos School, confessed that he was a "paleo-confederate," just after
>NSA President Roy Atwood said that any connection between his college and
>the neo-confederates was "laughably stupid."
>
>The distinction Wilson tries to draw between neo- and paleo-confederate is
>one without a difference. Steve Wilkins, founding director of the
>neo-confederate League of the South, has been keynote speaker at Wilson's
>Moscow conferences for 12 years in a row.
>
>I also appreciated Wilson's confession that Robert E. Lee's portrait and 
>the
>Confederate flag have been displayed in church and school functions, in
>spite of Logos principal Tom Garfield's claims to the contrary.
>
>Most of my information about NSA and Christ Church comes from their own
>publications and former church members, who have not become leftists but
>remain conservative Christians very worried about how pastors such as 
>Wilson
>are making the religious right look worse than it really is.
>
>For the full scoop on Wilson's religious empire see www.notonthepalouse.com
>and http://users.adelphia.net/~nickgier/Wilson.htm.
>
>Nick Gier
>Moscow, Idaho
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------
>
>Seeya round town, Moscow.
>
>Tom Hansen
>Vandalville, Idaho
>
>*************************************************
>
>"When people sin, everybody has to pay."
>
>- Douglas Wilson of Wilson, Inc. (dba Christ Church) (June 7, 2002)
>
>For more details:  http://www.NotOnThePalouse.com
>
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