[Vision2020] WHAT PART OF EQUALITY DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND?

[J Ford]

"But why limit others who do not believe as you do? "

Because that is called "CONTROL FREAK" and is what is taught in the 
CC/kirker world.



J  :]





>From: Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>
>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] WHAT PART OF EQUALITY DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND?
>Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 10:12:36 -0800
>
>Is it just me, or is this hard to parse?  Using "stealing" as a metaphor
>here is just as bad as using it to cover copyright infringement.  The
>accusations of "taking advantage of", "stolen water" and "bread eaten in
>secret" are confusing.
>
>I think the key concept that you seem to be missing here is that of
>personal choice.  Why shouldn't two people choose to marry in one
>situation, and two others choose not to?  Why shouldn't two men or two
>women marry?  How can it be a bad thing if both members involved have
>consented to the situation?  To me, it's that simple.  Their choice may
>not be the one you would have chosen, but you aren't one of the people
>deciding in this case, so who cares?
>
>You may have personal beliefs that limit your own personal choices.  I
>have no problem with that.  But why limit others who do not believe as
>you do?  What right do you have to tell two people that they *should* do
>anything?  What right do you have to tell two people that they should
>not take wedding vows?  Why do you think that you have the right to
>judge someone's personal relationships in a public forum?  Govern
>yourself and anyone else who has voluntarily given power over to you,
>but leave the rest of us alone.
>
>Paul
>
>P.S.  I don't know what Nick Gier's relationship status is and I don't
>care.  I make no judgements in either direction.
>
>
>heirdoug at netscape.net wrote:
>
> > WHAT PART OF EQUALITY DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND?
> > It's Indivisible and Universal Anyway
> >
> > The part of universal Equality that I don’t understand is the part
> > where the lady with whom you are living with doesn’t have the same
> > benefits that your ex-wife enjoyed. The part of indivisible Equality
> > that I don’t understand is that you think that “gays and lesbians”
> > should have the right to marry but that your lady friend shouldn’t
> > have the benefit of a marriage license. You say that “millions of
> > sexually active heterosexuals …make…. decisions for their 
>spouses.”
> > Does this person, who you take advantage of, have these same rights
> > you wish to espouse. “Liberal democracies make a distinction between
> > so-called sins and crimes,” Is it a sin or a crime the way you treat
> > your friend.
> >
> > The part of Equality that I don’t understand is the part where you
> > steal from the woman who is not your wife to make up for your lack of
> > manhood. Stolen water is sweet Mr. Gier and bread eaten in secret is
> > pleasant. But he does not know that the dead are there, that her
> > guests are in the depths of Sheol.
> >
> > You are nothing but a simple thief. You take what you have not
> > sacrificed for, all in the name of “love”. You are willing to
> > discriminate against her honor for your selfishness. What has happened
> > to your most basic value now? What part of Equality don’t you 
>understand?
> >
> > I love liberty by taste, equality by instinct and reason
> > —Alexis de Tocqueville in a letter to John Stuart Mill
> >
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